Lowe - Answered a Question by Grigsby (17 Jan 09 00:05)

What about contacting Nicky Campbell at 'Watchdog'. He might get things moving if enough people contact him.

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astair - Answered a Question by Grigsby (17 Jan 09 08:48)

I believe people are being somewhat naive regarding the trouble over xmas. The fact of the matter is that since cruising has become so competitive, prices have had to drop accordingly and unfortunately, due to this, the dross element or society, once the visitors of butlins/pontins etc can now afford to go cruising. If cruise passengers cant accept this, perhaps cruising is no longer for you. P and O realise this and therefore dealing with incidents like this are not high on their agenda, even though passengers may not be happy with this. This sort of incident is commonplace in holiday resorts, busy towns and nightclubs and now it seems to be growing on ships. P and O obviously have their heads in the sand regarding this and if anyone thinks they are going to get compensation or letters of apology, you may be waiting a while!

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Wilba - replied to astair (17 Jan 09 09:01)

Well said! P&O need a new Ocean Village 3, so either rebrand Ventura as such & then attempt to recapture their reputation with their existing fleet by applying traditional cruising values or accept the fact that the traditional cruising fraternity will leave them at the dockside. This idea of a big ship trying to be all things to all men just ‘ain’t gonna work’ for the ‘People who DO do cruises’ & to my mind RCI’s new Oasis breed will create a further drop in standards due to it’s 5000+ capacity. Too many cabins to fill everyday, so flog ‘em to the lowest common denominator. Some of course will embrace this, but the next influx of society to take up cruising will be the gypsies, knocking cabin doors to sell pegs…..Wilba.

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morton - replied to Wilba (17 Jan 09 18:08)

Hi Wilba, as the children are now way past holidaying with us, we are looking at downsizing the ships we sail on.We have a couple of HAL trips sorted for this year but Hebridean looks to be on the agenda for next year. Have you any suggestions regarding cruise lines with smaller passenger capacity but still with a traditional style? I feel we may be singing from the same hymn sheet. Regards J.

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Wilba - replied to morton (17 Jan 09 19:08)

If your going on Hebridean I'm very jealous, they look fantastic. They were visiting all the same ports we were, on a Med cruise a couple of years ago. You do know they roll out the Red Carpet at every port for real. Can't comment on any others but Neil Down rates Azamara in a big way, only about 680 guests on their ships. I did go on HAL Eurodam on a day visit last year & was very impressed, food was superb & ship oozed quality......Regards Wilba.

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morton - replied to Wilba (17 Jan 09 20:39)

Thanks. I think I'll question Neil when he gets back on line about Azamara. We thought we'd see a bit of our own island as we've been round the world a few times but never been to Scotland and I like what I hear about Hebridean. They have a fabulous sounding series of cruises around Scotland/Norway. They do sound rather special. Also someone told me Oceania are a good smaller option. Any feedback that you know of? J.

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Wilba - replied to morton (17 Jan 09 21:23)

Have you been on the Hebridean website? The cabins are wonderful to say the least, & although there aren't too many reviews, they are extremely favourable. I have only heard good about Oceania & are somewhere on my hit list, possibly 2010. I've just booked Equinox for later this year, not small, but her sister, Solstice is getting rave reviews so I'm very much looking forward to that. Regards Wilba.

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morton - replied to Wilba (18 Jan 09 12:47)

Yes, I have seen the web site and am on their emailing list. Consequently got a courtesy invite to meet them at the travel show in Manchester. I dragged my husband along as he was intrigued at how a 'trip around the Scottish Isles' could be so expensive. Now he knows and is sold! Hopefully we will be making our first Hebridean cruise in spring '10. regards J.

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Setter - replied to morton (21 Jan 09 19:50)

Just a thought--i dont know how old you are, but be prepared for a pretty elderly passenger "profile" on Hebridean. Cynthia.

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Morton - replied to Setter (21 Jan 09 23:02)

Thank you for thinking of us Cynthia. Appreciate it. We're mid 50's and I had a feeling the age profile would be somewhat older. I just like the sound of the Hebridean style. We will give it a go next year because as my husband said, it's a wonderful way of seeing the scottish isles and older guests are often well travelled and good company. J x.

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