Are you friends with Bill W, Dr Bob or Dorothy…?

Are you friends will Bill W, Dr Bob or Dorothy… or like me before my first cruise with Princess did not have any idea who any of these people were… ?  As I studied the Princess Patter on board the Grand Princess one day I stumbled across a Friends of Bill W meeting and just thought wow he is having a big party and has it publicised where all his friends should meet him for a drink’s reception… actually only to discover this would be entirely the opposite to what was happening in the wedding chapel at that time.

friends meetings

William “Bill W” Wilson is actually the co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) along with Dr Bob Smith.  It is believed that the meetings are named as such in keeping with the anonymity of AA members that they just introduce themselves using their fist names.  The cruise lines were also reluctant to be publicising these meetings in their activities schedules for fear of upsetting some passengers..  consequently the “Friends of Bill W”  or “Friends of Dr Bob” names was adopted.

Other fictitious “passengers” you might think are having parties on board every cruise you go on include ” Friends of Jimmy K” – referring to James Kinnon the founder of Narcotics Anonymous and also “Friends of Dorothy” which was originally just for gay men but is now much more widely opened up and on some ships just listed as the GLBT group.  I must admit – in my extreme naivety – that I still did not understand what GLBT stood for either until discussing with a member of bar staff.  This is a group meeting for fellow Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual & Transgender passengers to get together… But who is Dorothy.?   This dates back many years and was a way of discussing this without others knowing.  One possible explanation was that it referred to Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz – for her accepting of the lion who was different – owing to his line in the movie stating ” We’re friends of Dorothy”, another claim is that it is directly related to the Dorothy actress herself, Judy Garland, who was not only a huge gay icon but was a massive gay rights advocate. 

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Our website Guides section – gives some sample daily planners so you can see the idea of activities scheduled by different cruise lines. Here is one for the Queen Elizabeth that features a “Friends of Bill W” & ” Friends of Dorothy” meeting..

Friends Meetings on Daily Planner

So hopefully this little insight will help some of you next time you are reading your daily schedule on board your next cruise, just so that you don’t crash the wrong party, thinking that Bill W is having a free drinks reception.. !!


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