wesson - Answered a Question by Hughes (04 Feb 09 09:16)

No tis exorbitant tax is added to all bills signed for at the bars. you can escape the $10 a day gratuities that is added tyo the cruise bill daily. but it takes time and you need to stand your ground at reception.they do everything to make you feel bad about it. but its possible with brass neck..

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Wilba - Answered a Question by Hughes (03 Feb 09 23:26)

No you cannot get out of the 15% bar charges....Wilba.

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Neil & Ida Down - Answered a Question by Hughes (04 Feb 09 11:09)

If one was cynical one could imagine that one was trying to pay as little as possible wouldn't one? I wouldn't dream of making that assumption and I assume that you will be paying the staff more than the suggested amounts because that would reflect the kind of people you are! ......... Neil.

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Hughes - replied to Neil & Ida Down (04 Feb 09 19:38)

Too right I am trying to get out of paying these expensive add ons. When you go on holiday to hotels abroad do you pay $10 a day tips? I will, we will give what we feel they deserve. We could have a extra weeks holiday abroad if we paid these costs off all 5 of us. Don't you agree? We are not cheap and will give what we think they deserve, not the $10 a day. I would prefer to tip the service we get like you do in bars and restaurants abroad, make it more personal.

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Horrell - replied to Hughes (05 Feb 09 17:51)

If one is a true cynic ,then one would assume one is speaking as though one has swallowed a plum in order to make one look good. In the real world adding tips is a underhanded way of paying the wages of the staff.Once the cruise liners admit this the better.

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Neil & Ida Down - replied to Horrell (06 Feb 09 10:22)

No, it was written in a jokey manner, no plum, so get off your high horse. I also believe that you have not got the right idea about the rest of it either. Cruise Lines run the "tips" method for three reasons, one is so that they can make the cruise price look lower, two is in the badly mistaken idea that they can get better service from the staff and lastly when the ship is not full the people who suffer are those who are unable to collect tips from non-existent customers and the cruise line suffers least. If you, in your wisdom, can come up with a way to change the majority of the cruise lines into using a different system then you will have the heartfelt applause from more British people than Take That. Respectfully yours ........Neil.

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Horrell - replied to Neil & Ida Down (07 Feb 09 16:18)

I am suprised you conluded my barb was directed at you. Any one can make critical assumptions, I am just pointing out the bare facts it is a underhanded way of paying wages. Those who cannot see that is not living in the real world. Cruise liners will not change the system as it suits them and their pockets.

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Balogh - replied to Neil & Ida Down (05 Feb 09 09:00)

Great answer Neil.........

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Keohane - replied to Neil & Ida Down (05 Feb 09 09:41)

Think there are possibly quite a few people who opt out of the set service charge and then don't bother to give any personal tips to people who have looked after them extremely well. I know that the waiters (who people have had the most contact with) are very appreciative of their tips and it certainly helps their wages. Some people are just being mean. If they can afford to go on a cruise they should be prepared to pay the service charges - they know about them from when they first book up and you should budget for them.

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Lazenby - Answered a Question by Hughes (04 Feb 09 18:47)

I don't know about this line, but on Princess Cruises and others, you can elect not to pay the gratuities which are added (although I don't know about the 15% on drinks). I'd think carefully about this for three reasons. One is that it's impossible to tip all the people involved in making your cruise enjoyable. There are many behind the scenes or working in quieter areas and it seems unfair that they should be left out. Secondly, I'd be concerned about being seen as a bit of a 'cheapskate' by the staff who may not give you as a good a service maybe? (Perhaps I do them an injustice?) Thirdly, rightly or wrongly (personally I think it's wrong) the staff on board are not very well paid and rely on the tips to make up a decent wage.

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