morton - Answered a Question by Boyd (10 Jan 09 17:59)

KL and S'pore are both vibrant melting pots of the ethnic old and the ultra modern new. As I imagine you only have a day in each, I would take a city tour in both as it will be impossible to fit in all you want to do. KL has the Petronas twin towers and the KL tower but they are modern buildings with not much style, ok if part of a tour but not as a focal point of a day.Chinatown[Petaling street] and the Batu road[Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman]are fascinating to walk around and have splended hawker foodstalls[never eat from a stall that had no running water access]. Out of KL, the Royal Selangor pewter factory is usuall teamed with a visit to the Batu , an amazing Hindu shrine.Again, in Singapore, take a tour. The city tour will take in the now very sanitised China town and little India but still interesting. I think the Kranji war memorial is also a must if you can. The hawker stalls are wonderful and in true s'pore style, safe to eat in. Clarke quay is fun but more modern. If you can, try Boon Tat Street,known locally as Satay Street.Magnificent food. Open air,Magic. I would avoid the Long Bar at Raffles. The whole place is over hyped/priced/crowded and a waste of your valuable time. I used to live in Singapore so I know it quite well. The long bar at Raffles is over hyped/priced/crowded and I would def. give it a miss.

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morton - replied to morton (10 Jan 09 18:05)

Oops, got carried away, can't spell usual and missed out the 'caves' after Batu.Hmm, I def. don't like the long bar at Raffles do I. Sorry to have repeated myself. KL and Singapore are my favourite places in the whole world to visit. You are so lucky. I hope to get out later this year but not on a cruise.

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Wilba - replied to morton (10 Jan 09 18:37)

Now you are sure about the long bar!!!! LOL! I thought I knew Singapore but Boon Tat St is new one on me. I can see on the map it's behind Raffles Quay & a bit more info would be appreciated as we have 4 nights pre cruise in May.....Regards Wilba.

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morton - replied to Wilba (10 Jan 09 20:21)

Hi Wilba, great to be of help to you. Boon Tat is actually part of the CBD and during the day is an ordinary street with hawker stalls. At night time the road is closed to traffic and tables and benches are set up. You wander up and down the stalls, picking a little here and a little there and then sit down to eat at a spare table. It is very cheap and the most tasty food you will eat. It is renown for the choices of satay. The Lau Pa Sat is at one end. That too is worth a visit. It was a market when we lived there but is now a huge food place. I prefer the street stalls but do go and look first before you decide where to eat. Boat Quay is also worth a visit. Glad you share my view of the Long Bar. Total tourist tat. As a hotel, it's not a patch on the Shang. Do ask if you need any other info. It's many years since my husband worked there but we are frequent visitors. Can't keep away.

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morton - replied to morton (10 Jan 09 21:19)

You could also try the satay at Clarke Quay too. I'm pretty sure it's taken on the name of the old Satay Club. Afterwards stroll around the quay or take a bum boat trip along the river. It's probably a little more picturesque than Boon Tat. Food is great at most of these places.

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Wilba - replied to morton (11 Jan 09 07:49)

Thanks for that, Boon Tat sounds just up my street & is in my holiday folder as a 'must do'. Clarke & Boat Quay I'm up to speed with, as this is where we stay, Marchant Court this time. I've done the bum boat but on this trip 5 family members will be on their first ever Far East so no doubt will be repeated. Thanks again & like you, Singapore goes down as my favourite ever city......Regards Wilba.

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Setter - replied to morton (11 Jan 09 15:28)

Instead of the Long bar at Raffles, I would suggest you go to the Stamford(just around the corner from Raffles) You can't miss it, it's the tallest hotel in Singapore(and certainly until v. recently the tallest in Asia) It has a good bar on the top(70th) floor with the most amazing views out over the harbour and the Indonesian Islands. Does a very good Stamford Sling, (cheaper than Raffles ) served in a ceramic "Merlion"(OK very touristy but if you can't be a tourist 70 floors up in Singapore, when can you? ) I wouldnt eat there- the fairmont next door has better food, and better still is the Hyatt Regency where the Sunday champagne brunch (should you be there on a Sunday, of course!) is superb!Cynthia.

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Wilba - Answered a Question by Boyd (10 Jan 09 13:33)

I'll try & help with some. Phuket: You will almost certainly anchor out in the Deep Sea Harbour of Patong Bay. Patong is the main 'entertainment' area's of Phuket. The front beach area is alive with market type stalls, shopping galore, mainly leather goods, fake watches, T shirts & casual fake designer clothing, restaurants, 'Simons' (the ladyboy theatre), & Bangla Rd (if you don't know, don't ask!). All life is on display & I for one would not bother with an excursion in the time available as there is enough in this small area to fill most peoples needs. Kuala Lumpur: The Capitol, KL is a fair journey from the dock, over an hour by road, Petronis Tower & the K.L. Tower are well worth a look (both free) & China town is also close by. If your a DIY excursion freak, like myself, the most recent price paid I've seen quoted was about £45 for 12 seater bus. Singapore: Too much to do & see in one day unless your cruise starts or finishes there, when a few days stopover is essential. I think a tour of the city making sure a stopoff at 'Raffles' to purchase the original & most expensive Singapore Sling in the world would be my choice........Regards Wilba.

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