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    #16
    Thought I remembered this had been discussed before as starvation reversal is fairly common knowledge.

    Sure enough it has.

    https://www.cruise.co.uk/forum/forum...rsing-diabetes

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      #17
      Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post
      Thought I remembered this had been discussed before as starvation reversal is fairly common knowledge.

      Sure enough it has.

      https://www.cruise.co.uk/forum/forum...rsing-diabetes
      I recalled that thread as well but would never have found it

      I don't consider myself on a starvation diet - Newcastle Medical school I think was involved??

      BTW Re the Mosley 5:2 diet, I have read some literature which suggests it is linked with high BP?? just as an aside.

      Annie
      Last edited by annie, Glasgow; 25th February 2020, 06:53 PM.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post
        Thought I remembered this had been discussed before as starvation reversal is fairly common knowledge.

        Sure enough it has.

        https://www.cruise.co.uk/forum/forum...rsing-diabetes
        Well, that was an eye opener! One poster suggested changing your GP to cure diabetes may not be that far off the mark. Never in any of the consultations both with GP and specialist diabetic people was excess weight given much consideration or the benefits that may derive from weight loss.

        That post was six years ago and yet our health team acted as if they had total ignorance of these findings (otherwise it would have featured prominently in consultations). The GP we currently see was on maternity leave when this came to the fore. It will be an interesting appointment when we see her.

        It's true to say that your health to a certain extent relies on your own research and asking searching questions. They are not called General Practitioners for nothing.

        Will keep you posted.

        Bill


        Lawnmowerman

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          #19
          Having worked in the pathology lab for 6 years when I first started at Wythenshawe hospital, I got used to what tests were ordered and when. GPs in our area do tend to ask for a fasting glucose test rather than a Random glucose. If the fasting glucose test is high they will ask for a HBA1C to confirm the result rather than the glucose tolerance test which means the patient is not only fasting, but then has to drink a glucose drink after having the first test done and then sitting around for two hours before the second test is done. The patient is not allowed to wander further than the nearest toilet as physical activity can alter the test result. I can’t tell you the number of times in the past I had to tell Mr or Mrs X that they couldn’t go outside for a cigarette!

          Take care, Helen

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            #20
            Originally posted by Mason, Altrincham View Post
            Having worked in the pathology lab for 6 years when I first started at Wythenshawe hospital, I got used to what tests were ordered and when. GPs in our area do tend to ask for a fasting glucose test rather than a Random glucose. If the fasting glucose test is high they will ask for a HBA1C to confirm the result rather than the glucose tolerance test which means the patient is not only fasting, but then has to drink a glucose drink after having the first test done and then sitting around for two hours before the second test is done. The patient is not allowed to wander further than the nearest toilet as physical activity can alter the test result. I can’t tell you the number of times in the past I had to tell Mr or Mrs X that they couldn’t go outside for a cigarette!

            Take care, Helen
            Why can't GPs follow the same testing protocol?? just asking.

            Annie

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              #21
              I was very interested until I looked at the Fast 800 website and discovered a book of 12 weeks recipes is £99.99!

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                #22
                Originally posted by Lawnmowerman, Tain View Post

                Well, that was an eye opener! One poster suggested changing your GP to cure diabetes may not be that far off the mark. Never in any of the consultations both with GP and specialist diabetic people was excess weight given much consideration or the benefits that may derive from weight loss.

                That post was six years ago and yet our health team acted as if they had total ignorance of these findings (otherwise it would have featured prominently in consultations). The GP we currently see was on maternity leave when this came to the fore. It will be an interesting appointment when we see her.

                It's true to say that your health to a certain extent relies on your own research and asking searching questions. They are not called General Practitioners for nothing.

                Will keep you posted.

                Bill
                it was also on the TV news and I am sure there was a full program covering the starvation reversal process

                found one of the news items and the NHS comment on that 2017

                http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39070183
                https://www.nhs.uk/news/diabetes/fas...etic-pancreas/
                https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/hop...-could-9905862

                Another BBC report.
                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46363869

                Mosley did a Horizon program back in 2012
                https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...nd-live-longer

                I can't find the program I was thinking about but did find this one.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ4dWSgmV68

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                  #23
                  Ash Wednesday

                  Back to basics starts here.

                  Hopefully!

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                    #24
                    My GP normally asks for a fasting blood test. I go to the clinic at the local hospital because I can have an early appointment, and then rush home to enjoy that first cuppa!
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                      #25
                      Hi Bill

                      Did you ever see this clip about a Largs woman:

                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42154666

                      Annie

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post
                        Hi Bill

                        Did you ever see this clip about a Largs woman:

                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42154666

                        Annie
                        Thanks Annie, I hadn't seen that - but it sums up exactly what I had read. It was part of a news feed to my mobile that I happened to spot when I was in the Cafe at M&S in Inverness (ironic really). I finish work early on Saturdays and nip into M&S for a few messages (groceries to most of our English cousins) and have a little me time (1/2 hour) with a coffee and toasted tea cake. I read the news feeds before going home.

                        Having read about the Professor's work I headed round to Waterstones and bought the book (I already had Dr. Mosely's for a few months but hadn't got around to reading it).

                        The more I find out the more staggered I am about the lack of emphasis from our part of NHS Highland.

                        Bill


                        Lawnmowerman

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by zopadooper, skegness (2) View Post
                          I was very interested until I looked at the Fast 800 website and discovered a book of 12 weeks recipes is £99.99!
                          For a book? The Fast 800 paperback has recipes and it retails at £8.99. You may find it cheaper online.

                          Bill


                          Lawnmowerman

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