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    #91
    Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post

    Is there a shortage of doses?

    Capacity to put them in people is there in our are they just need to open more days.
    Vaccine supply is OK but vaccinators supply may be the issue.

    Annie

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      #92
      Originally posted by All at sea, Yorks View Post

      Head in the sand syndrome?

      I’m not sure why the article writer is criticising more testing because at least it is uncovering a truer picture of what’s really going on in society. However, this increase in rates has been going on for weeks, seemingly unnoticed by the media and the government....whatever they might say. Other events have taken up the headlines.

      On another point, has anyone heard of Maggie Throup? Apparently she’s the recently appointed Minister for Vaccines & Public Health, who seems to be conspicuous by her absence, according to the press and others. ‘She’s been “hiding away” from the media since taking the post’.
      As I, and no doubt most others, read it, the Telegraph writer wasn't criticising more testing just quoting facts that you or I could have obtained had we so wished.

      I am pretty sure the government gets daily updates on key statistics, such as rates of infection, and reacts when advised necessary. The media clearly don't as they butterfly from what they hope is one crisis to what they hope they can make the next crisis.

      Perhaps Maggie Throup is busy getting stuck in to her new job instead of dancing to the tune of moronic media people aiming for a "gotcha interview". I imagine it takes a while to get to grips with a new task and to be able to move it forward. It certainly did in my working life, even when moving from one part to another part of the same company.

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        #93
        Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post

        Vaccine supply is OK but vaccinators supply may be the issue.

        Annie
        You may well be right. It is just not possible to conjure up vast numbers of trained experienced resources out of the sky, especially for what is basically short term (we hope) work.

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          #94
          Maggie's been in the job more than six weeks.

          How long does it take her to get herself on the telly and tell people to get jabbed?

          No need to worry about an inability to answer tricky questions (assuming that worries her). There really are no consequences.

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            #95
            We were pumping 400k to 600k a day in May and June.

            Look how many are getting done now?
            ​​​​​​

            Where have all these experienced jabbers gone?
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              #96
              Originally posted by sandraggg, Newcastle View Post
              Maggie's been in the job more than six weeks.

              How long does it take her to get herself on the telly and tell people to get jabbed?

              No need to worry about an inability to answer tricky questions (assuming that worries her). There really are no consequences.
              Indeed.

              I’m quoting here.....’ The bar was set high by her predecessor Nadhim Zahawi........he hammered home credible public health messages and responded quickly to dips in vaccine uptake and to rising infections.

              By contrast Ms Throup has undertaken zero media appearances during her first 6 weeks in the role , at a time when the schools vaccine rollout has stuttered in England and the booster jabs programme is still struggling to take off.’

              Now more than ever the public need reminding this pandemic is alive and kicking and they need to take care, good communications and messaging is paramount....imho.

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                #97
                Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post

                How is the vaccination program going for school children as they are they are driving the case numbers?? Just asking.

                Annie
                My grandson who is 15 had his covid jab in school yesterday in South Yorkshire.. A bit too late for him as he had covid two weeks ago and was really poorly with it .

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by chrisan, doncaster View Post

                  My grandson who is 15 had his covid jab in school yesterday in South Yorkshire.. A bit too late for him as he had covid two weeks ago and was really poorly with it .
                  https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/corona...9-vaccination/

                  When did they drop the 28 day after positive covid requirement?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post
                    We were pumping 400k to 600k a day in May and June.

                    Look how many are getting done now?
                    ​​​​​​

                    Where have all these experienced jabbers gone?
                    ​​​​​​

                    Back to their day jobs??

                    Annie

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                      Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post


                      Back to their day jobs??

                      Annie
                      Call them up if needed to save the country.

                      The country was pretty much open for business from May we managed without them doing their day jobs then we can again.

                      Mind you there was double dipping paid for furlough and for jabbing




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                        Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post

                        Call them up if needed to save the country.

                        The country was pretty much open for business from May we managed without them doing their day jobs then we can again.

                        Mind you there was double dipping paid for furlough and for jabbing



                        Some of the jabbers earlier in the year were released from NHS roles on a short term basis and they now cannot be released.

                        Also there were reports that some staff were paid only half the rate of others and felt 'ripped off'. Maybe the payment system has changed to a flat rate fee and the better paid jabbers don't think it is worth their time to jab?.

                        Annie


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                          Originally posted by sandraggg, Newcastle View Post
                          Maggie's been in the job more than six weeks.

                          How long does it take her to get herself on the telly and tell people to get jabbed?

                          No need to worry about an inability to answer tricky questions (assuming that worries her). There really are no consequences.
                          If there are any people out there who are not aware of the need to get vaccinated they must have serious intellect and comprehension issues (and no family or friends to help them) after the wall to wall publicity on the matter. No one seriously considers a Government Minister appearing on TV will make the slightest bit of difference, do they?

                          The NHS has sent out 5.5 million invitations to make an appointment for a booster jab with a further 2 million on the way. There is no shortage of booster doses.

                          In the first roll out GPs delivered 75% of all vaccinations This time many practises have opted out complaining of patient backlog, having to administer flu jabs and being asked to continue routine care which was not the case first time.

                          Many church halls or "pop-up" vaccine clinics have been closed in favour of pharmacies and larger out-of-town centre venues. The total number of vaccine centres has risen from 1,543 in Feb to 2205. Many GP's surgery's and smaller vaccination centres do not have the capacity to cater for the requirement to monitor patients for 15 minutes after the booster jab now.

                          The whole process has not been possible without the help of countless volunteers and fewer people are now volunteering to help at vaccination centres. The vociferous minority anti-vaxx mob do not help the take up.

                          It is clear the civil servants and NHS staff are not sitting on their rear ends waiting for a Minister to appear on TV.

                          You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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                            Can't do any harm for Ministers to say something sensible for a change, and reinforce the message.

                            ​​​​​​I'd rather see that, with at least the potential to do some good, than a parade of self-serving Ministers pursuing their own agendas.

                            They're quite happy to get themselves on TV to talk drivel when it suits their purposes.

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                              Originally posted by JohnR, Chippenham View Post
                              If there are any people out there who are not aware of the need to get vaccinated they must have serious intellect and comprehension issues (and no family or friends to help them) after the wall to wall publicity on the matter. No one seriously considers a Government Minister appearing on TV will make the slightest bit of difference, do they?

                              The NHS has sent out 5.5 million invitations to make an appointment for a booster jab with a further 2 million on the way. There is no shortage of booster doses.

                              In the first roll out GPs delivered 75% of all vaccinations This time many practises have opted out complaining of patient backlog, having to administer flu jabs and being asked to continue routine care which was not the case first time.

                              Many church halls or "pop-up" vaccine clinics have been closed in favour of pharmacies and larger out-of-town centre venues. The total number of vaccine centres has risen from 1,543 in Feb to 2205. Many GP's surgery's and smaller vaccination centres do not have the capacity to cater for the requirement to monitor patients for 15 minutes after the booster jab now.

                              The whole process has not been possible without the help of countless volunteers and fewer people are now volunteering to help at vaccination centres. The vociferous minority anti-vaxx mob do not help the take up.

                              It is clear the civil servants and NHS staff are not sitting on their rear ends waiting for a Minister to appear on TV.

                              You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
                              You describe the English system??

                              I understand they have now redeployed Emily Lawson back to her vaccine role.

                              Surely vaccinating the children should be prioritised over booster jabs and everyone mask up until this temporary blip is overcome.

                              Annie

                              PS Unless the government is following a herd immunity policy?? and don't care about the level of infections.
                              Last edited by annie, Glasgow; 24th October 2021, 10:10 AM.

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                                Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post

                                You describe the English system??

                                I understand they have now redeployed Emily Lawson back to her vaccine role.

                                Surely vaccinating the children should be prioritised over booster jabs and everyone mask up until this temporary blip is overcome.

                                Annie

                                PS Unless the government is following a herd immunity policy?? and don't care about the level of infections.


                                This had occurred to me....you have to wonder if this has been an undisclosed policy all along? Although I think one or two of the experts has said in the past that herd immunity cannot be attained.

                                What is worrying is that Boris keeps repeating that the vaccine programme (such as it is at present!) is the only way to go and is rejecting any other basic tools at his disposal, like mask wearing.

                                It was significant that after Javids briefing last week the BMA Federation accused the government of ‘wilful negligence’

                                Strong words.

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