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    #46
    Originally posted by BigMac, Glasgow View Post
    Are masks effective?

    The only trials ever carried out were in Denmark where 3,000 volunteers were given masks and told to wear them as much as possible. 3,000 others were told never to wear a mask. After the trial period ended, there was virtually no difference between the two groups. The report (by their "NHS") was supressed.

    The BMA published figures, but when pressed, admitted they came from someone in China.
    Right Fromm the very beginning the WHO and others doubted the efficiency of wearing masks, disposable or reusable. At best they protect others not the wearer.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post

      if symptomatic you are supposed to get a PCR test ASAP..

      When she first felt ill she thought she had a chest infection and her voice became as she says like Dave’s.

      Took a lateral flow test which showed negative, so went to her Doctors who told her she did not have a chest infection and put her on a course of antibiotics. No mention of a PCR.
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        #48
        Originally posted by JohnR, Chippenham View Post
        Right Fromm the very beginning the WHO and others doubted the efficiency of wearing masks, disposable or reusable. At best they protect others not the wearer.
        Just been to M&S and Tesco.
        Tesco, I'd say 99% compliance and the same for M&S.

        Interestingly, The maskless were of the [much] older generation.

        I shall continue wearing mine.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Mrs M View Post

          Just been to M&S and Tesco.
          Tesco, I'd say 99% compliance and the same for M&S.

          Interestingly, The maskless were of the [much] older generation.

          I shall continue wearing mine.
          Will continue to wear ours in shops and supermarkets.

          Spent the last two afternoons down at the seafront which is busy but not so busy as at weekend,

          On Monday we just parked up in our favourite car park virtually on the beach, people watching, only saw one woman who was pushing a buggy wearing a mask whilst walking, but when I went to the cafe to buy an ice cream, there was a 100% compliance of people entering or queuing to enter.

          Yesterday we took a walk (wife on her scooter) for a couple of hours along the promenade and noticed there were a lot more walkers wearing masks, most people still seem to be wearing them when entering premises.
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            #50
            Originally posted by Delboy, Essex View Post

            Will continue to wear ours in shops and supermarkets.

            Spent the last two afternoons down at the seafront which is busy but not so busy as at weekend,

            On Monday we just parked up in our favourite car park virtually on the beach, people watching, only saw one woman who was pushing a buggy wearing a mask whilst walking, but when I went to the cafe to buy an ice cream, there was a 100% compliance of people entering or queuing to enter.

            Yesterday we took a walk (wife on her scooter) for a couple of hours along the promenade and noticed there were a lot more walkers wearing masks, most people still seem to be wearing them when entering premises.
            What? You not been pinged or contacted now your daughter has tested positive

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              #51
              Originally posted by andyn, Bucks View Post

              What? You not been pinged or contacted now your daughter has tested positive
              Nope

              Maybe be cause we have not been in personal contact with our daughter since 10/07, other than by text.

              Secondly she only entered it into the system late last night when she received the result.

              ​​​​​​Thirdly we do not have the app on our phones as we only have PAYG with mobile data turned off, main use via wi fi.
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                #52
                Originally posted by Delboy, Essex View Post

                Nope

                Maybe be cause we have not been in personal contact with our daughter since 10/07, other than by text.

                Secondly she only entered it into the system late last night when she received the result.

                ​​​​​​Thirdly we do not have the app on our phones as we only have PAYG with mobile data turned off, main use via wi fi.
                OK, was surprised, last year I got contacted and the contacts were dated from when he had symptoms not when he was tested and it was very quickly after his positive result. 2/3 weeks with symptoms is a lot of contacts

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by andyn, Bucks View Post

                  OK, was surprised, last year I got contacted and the contacts were dated from when he had symptoms not when he was tested and it was very quickly after his positive result. 2/3 weeks with symptoms is a lot of contacts
                  I suppose it is if you are out and about.
                  From the moment she felt unwell she decided to work from home, very lucky in that she has the choice. At work she has her own office separate from her team and since the pandemic has virtually cut out socialising. Think European cup final was only time she sat in the pub.
                  She has also been self isolating since she was pinged.
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Delboy, Essex View Post

                    Nope

                    Maybe be cause we have not been in personal contact with our daughter since 10/07, other than by text.

                    Secondly she only entered it into the system late last night when she received the result.

                    ​​​​​​Thirdly we do not have the app on our phones as we only have PAYG with mobile data turned off, main use via wi fi.

                    The app does not need data to work to do anything.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post


                      The app does not need data to work to do anything.
                      Read this on Vodafones news data te test and trace app.

                      NOTE: If you’re a PAYG customer, you will need to have some data on your phone in order to use the app – it won’t use up that data, but you must have some data available.
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Delboy, Essex View Post

                        I suppose it is if you are out and about.
                        From the moment she felt unwell she decided to work from home, very lucky in that she has the choice. At work she has her own office separate from her team and since the pandemic has virtually cut out socialising. Think European cup final was only time she sat in the pub.
                        She has also been self isolating since she was pinged.
                        Now we have a time line.

                        Daughter got sick but went to pub EU final on the 11th July anyway

                        infects people there and they incubated for a while

                        they tested positive

                        daughter got pinged

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Delboy, Essex View Post

                          Read this on Vodafones news data te test and trace app.

                          NOTE: If you’re a PAYG customer, you will need to have some data on your phone in order to use the app – it won’t use up that data, but you must have some data available.

                          That is probably vodafone not explaining it properly.

                          what they mean is if you want to use data you will need some even though it won't be used.
                          if you don't want to use data wifi is fine.


                          APp just needs regular internet connection does not need data, wifi will work.


                          if it is using data most of the UK providers provide it for free for in app activity.


                          I use it with a 3 data reward sim, no credit and often the free data runs out, app not moaned at me yet it can't get a connection.



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                            #58
                            The European MD of our daughters company, has decided except for warehouse staff to close the offices until at least the 04/08 when the position will be reviewed, due to our daughter and another member of staff testing positive.

                            Thankfully they can still carry on working from home, which they have done previously, during periods of lockdown.
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                              #59
                              Visited Tesco today to do our weekly shop, a large normally 24 hour superstore, which has self scanning of goods.

                              It was fairly busy and I would say 99.9% of customers were wearing masks only a very few younger people and some of the staff were not.

                              Shelves were fully stocked unlike what they were saying on the ‘This Morning’ TV programme today.

                              We converted to shopping with Tesco many weeks ago, due to the number of Asda shelves always being empty of regular foods, this was long before pinging became a problem.
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