It is not always the children to blame

[andyn, Bucks]

Overreaction.

Annie

Then as it is family isolation, following the rules. Do they have to contact all the siblings at other schools and get them to isolate aswell (14 days with no symptoms)

On your marks, get set, go.............the panic buying begins. Hope you've all got your toilet rolls

[annie, Glasgow]

Then as it is family isolation, following the rules. Do they have to contact all the siblings at other schools and get them to isolate aswell (14 days with no symptoms)

On your marks, get set, go.............the panic buying begins. Hope you've all got your toilet rolls

oh that has started already according to the Daily Fail - delivery slots hard for Ocado and Sainsbury difficult to obtain.

Annie

[annie, Glasgow]

I tend to agree with you Carol, we as a family try to live our life’s as normal as possible, social distance, wear masks where required, take care of our personal hygiene and avoid crowded areas.

Our daughter and partner who tend to eat out more than the rest of us, took part on the Governments eat out scheme on several occasions which also included a weekend away at York a few weeks ago where they got engaged. But have cut out their visits to clubs and bars, only visiting pubs for a meal.

As for social distancing we as a family have kept to rule of 6 since it was announced. Although on Friday evening it did stretch to 8 when our Daughter/Partner briefly popped in during a visit from our Son/ DIL and their two children, to announce they had set a date for their wedding and had also booked the venue, would pick my wife and I up Saturday morning to go and view. A wedding venue we did not know existed even although it’s only a 5 minute drive from our home. Two of those visiting were children aged 5 and under, so if in Scotland we would have been OK.

The wedding venue had cancelled all weddings until April 2021, but had very few vacant dates in 2022.

Congratulations to your daughter - good to have a family celebration!

In Scotland, 8 can be OK but mixing 3 or more households is not.

Annie

[Delboy, Essex]

Congratulations to your daughter - good to have a family celebration!

In Scotland, 8 can be OK but mixing 3 or more households is not.

Annie

Thank you Annie but have since made an amendment to my original post and it came up unapproved so I cancelled and reposted.


Originally posted by carol, welwyn garden city View Post
So stick with the masks the distancing and hand washing, and those that are that worried, ill or vulnerable, stay at home!! .................................................. .......................Carol

I tend to agree with you Carol, we as a family try to live our life’s as normal as possible, social distance, wear masks where required, take care of our personal hygiene and avoid crowded areas.

Our daughter and partner who tend to eat out more than the rest of us, took part on the Governments eat out scheme on several occasions which also included a weekend away at York a few weeks ago where they got engaged. But have cut out their visits to clubs and bars, only visiting pubs for a meal.

As for social distancing we as a family have kept to rule of 6 since it was announced. Although on Friday evening it did stretch to 8 when our Daughter/Partner briefly popped in during a visit from our Son/ DIL and their two children, to announce they had set a date for their wedding and had also booked the venue, would pick my wife and I up Saturday morning to go and view. A wedding venue we did not know existed even although it’s only a 5 minute drive from our home. Two of those visiting were children aged 5 and under, so if in Scotland we would have been OK.

The wedding venue had cancelled all weddings until April 2021, but had very few vacant dates in 2022. Our daughters will be in Sept 2022.

[Mrs M]

Edited, unapproved so deleted and reposted

Church this morning, all were wearing masks, but one or two [or three] of the very elderly, were wearing them under the nose and lifting them up to talk to someone a few pews away. Waste of time wearing them but as far as they were concerned, they were complying!

[sandraggg, Newcastle]

The Southern Rail strikes last year were due to single driver trains, and the safety of trains with no guards. Looks like that may become a moot point and all trains may need to revert to guards.

I've always valued the presence of guards on trains and I've never understood why we apparently can't afford to have a company representative on a train, to protect revenue and help and support passengers.

I've also found that guards have an air of authority and are not normally ignored. On a personal level, whenever a guard enters the carriage shouting "Tickets please!" I'm reduced to a quivering wreck when I cannot quickly locate my railcard in my bag.

[Smith7]

The Southern Rail strikes last year were due to single driver trains, and the safety of trains with no guards. Looks like that may become a moot point and all trains may need to revert to guards.

On my line, I have seen guards passing through the train during the pandemic but never checking tickets.

Given that they don't challenge non-compliance of the Covid rules on Public Transport either, I wonder what their role is at the moment.

[annie, Glasgow]

I've always valued the presence of guards on trains and I've never understood why we apparently can't afford to have a company representative on a train, to protect revenue and help and support passengers.

I've also found that guards have an air of authority and are not normally ignored. On a personal level, whenever a guard enters the carriage shouting "Tickets please!" I'm reduced to a quivering wreck when I cannot quickly locate my railcard in my bag.

Several years ago I travelled from Berlin to Dresden by rail. A segment of the longer Hamburg to Prague route.

German Railways had put the wrong rolling stock on for the journey and consequently it was b****y chaos. Just sit anywhere was the cry. The trail was also late. Passengers holding 1st class tickets with seat reservations were forced to stand.

The ticket collectors travelled in groups of 3 for their own protection. They apologised and issued paperwork for refunds.

The return trip was also late but at least they had the correct rolling stock.

I never travelled on any German train which ran to schedule. A young German lady said that was not unusual.

Annie

[sandraggg, Newcastle]

Several years ago I travelled from Berlin to Dresden by rail. A segment of the longer Hamburg to Prague route.

German Railways had put the wrong rolling stock on for the journey and consequently it was b****y chaos. Just sit anywhere was the cry. The trail was also late. Passengers holding 1st class tickets with seat reservations were forced to stand.

The ticket collectors travelled in groups of 3 for their own protection. They apologised and issued paperwork for refunds.

The return trip was also late but at least they had the correct rolling stock.

I never travelled on any German train which ran to schedule. A young German lady said that was not unusual.

Annie

Surprised to hear that, as I thought German trains would be efficient!

I've never travelled by rail in Germany, but I have found Italian trains to be unreliable... although maybe I have just been unlucky!

[Garfield, Waterlooville]

Won't be long now for Circuit Break...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-54224544

Garf

[jc, liverpool]

Hi all
My town goes into the more severe lockdown tomorrow.
We usually pick up my 6 year old granddaughter from school twice a week,the other days her other Nan picks her up.
Luckily my daughter can work her own hours to suit,within reason,,,but to finish work at 14:00 she will sometimes go into work for 06:00.
That means getting up at 03:30 to get to work,,not helped that she is pregnant.

What we can’t understand is from tomorrow I can have a coffee in the coffee shop with my Daughter and little one but can’t pick her up from school and bring her to ours until her parents come home.

Pub curfew at 22:00? What does that mean? My club have been trying to find out to no avail you ring 4 government depts and get 4 different answers.
What are we doing? We are shutting the bar at 22:00 and shutting the doors so nobody comes in after 22:00.
Can we get 2-3 pints in before the bar shuts and linger over them for an hour or so?


JC

[annie, Glasgow]

Hi all
My town goes into the more severe lockdown tomorrow.
We usually pick up my 6 year old granddaughter from school twice a week,the other days her other Nan picks her up.
Luckily my daughter can work her own hours to suit,within reason,,,but to finish work at 14:00 she will sometimes go into work for 06:00.
That means getting up at 03:30 to get to work,,not helped that she is pregnant.

What we can’t understand is from tomorrow I can have a coffee in the coffee shop with my Daughter and little one but can’t pick her up from school and bring her to ours until her parents come home.

Pub curfew at 22:00? What does that mean? My club have been trying to find out to no avail you ring 4 government depts and get 4 different answers.
What are we doing? We are shutting the bar at 22:00 and shutting the doors so nobody comes in after 22:00.
Can we get 2-3 pints in before the bar shuts and linger over them for an hour or so?


JC

Welcome to the club JC

Interesting data from the Dublin area. There is a spike in cases but their 'wet' pubs are still closed. A 'wet' bar is a bar that serves no food. Data suggests it is inter-household transmission. Lots of smallish family gatherings behind closed doors ??

Annie

[Delboy, Essex]

Hi all
My town goes into the more severe lockdown tomorrow.
We usually pick up my 6 year old granddaughter from school twice a week,the other days her other Nan picks her up.
Luckily my daughter can work her own hours to suit,within reason,,,but to finish work at 14:00 she will sometimes go into work for 06:00.
That means getting up at 03:30 to get to work,,not helped that she is pregnant.

What we can’t understand is from tomorrow I can have a coffee in the coffee shop with my Daughter and little one but can’t pick her up from school and bring her to ours until her parents come home.

Pub curfew at 22:00? What does that mean? My club have been trying to find out to no avail you ring 4 government depts and get 4 different answers.
What are we doing? We are shutting the bar at 22:00 and shutting the doors so nobody comes in after 22:00.
Can we get 2-3 pints in before the bar shuts and linger over them for an hour or so?


JC

From what I gather this morning there will be another lockdown, but it will not include a work or schools lockdown, but concentrate on socialising.

This will include the lockdown of pubs and clubs, it will not help with your school problems, but it will solve your 10pm club closure problem in that your club will be on full lock down.

[jc, liverpool]

Welcome to the club JC

Interesting data from the Dublin area. There is a spike in cases but their 'wet' pubs ae still closed. A 'wet' bar is a bar that serves no food. Data suggests it is inter-household transmission. Lots of smallish family gatherings behind closed doors ??

Annie

Hi Annie
I fear that will happen here..
As I understand it the 22:00 rule is to deter groups of youngsters flouting distancing rules after drink.
This will be effective as the young ones don’t usually go out until 22:00 sometimes then until early hours of the morning,but usually they get tanked up before they go out..... maybe they will just meet up anyhow and get their fill in each other’s houses.

I feel the virus police coming out and stopping people on the streets or in taxis after say 22:30 asking why they are out.
If you can’t meet in others houses or pubs are shut at 22:00 why is someone out walking the streets at that time unless you are a burglar.

Do you think the Covid Act will be repealed at the end of the month? There is already an growing momentum by rightwing libertarian Tory MP that the powers in the Act go too far in curtailing freedoms.

ps,A few friends are planning a trip to Cork as soon as the Irish ‘wet bar’ rules are lifted.
JC

[jc, liverpool]

From what I gather this morning there will be another lockdown, but it will not include a work or schools lockdown, but concentrate on socialising.

This will include the lockdown of pubs and clubs, it will not help with your school problems, but it will solve your 10pm club closure problem in that your club will be on full lock down.

Hi Del
But what does a ’full’ pub lockdown at 10pm mean?
Will I have to be out of the club by 10pm,,what then Last Orders.?
If it means bar shuts at 10pm how can I be out by 10pm.?
If it means bar shuts at 10pm can I order 3 pints and leave the club at 11:30?

I don’t have a clue,and neither does the club,,,,and I bet the government doesn’t either,,,they’ll just make it up as it goes along,,,the ‘whack ‘a’ mole policy.

JC