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    #16
    Meanwhile in Scotland.....

    https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/g...x3UXHrfNsSAHNM
    don't want to work, just want to cruise.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Issyalex, Glasgow View Post
      I read the original story on Sunday but did not know of the follow-up.

      A comment I heard today was that whilst the restrictions on household visiting are in place, why are we allowing driving lessons to take place when Miss A cannot visit her Granny for a cup of tea??

      Annie

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        #18
        It’s a maxim of 6 people meeting together, it used to be from 2 households, latest rules has no limit on households, so you can have 6 people meeting from 6 different households.

        We have 12 people from 4 households in our family bubble, one of which is a teacher. Only a maximum of 6 can meet up together either indoors or outdoors, unless we all go down the pub or restaurant, then we can all meet, providing we are sitting at two tables of 6, the two tables being socially distanced.
        Last edited by Delboy, Essex; 17th September 2020, 06:22 PM.
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          #19
          Social distancing includes multiple groups of six not interacting across tables.

          Our spoons has enforcement across tables in place even when quiet.

          your chosen establishment may be lacking in enforcement of the rules.
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            #20
            Originally posted by andyn, Bucks View Post

            Was it upto 30 people outside? As the story doesn't have any details I will go with headteacher in this case, who probably has a better grasp on the details than us....
            ...................unless you had a relative at the party
            Yes it was 30, I was planning a party, but that is now on hold!! .................................................. ............Carol

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              #21
              Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post

              I read the original story on Sunday but did not know of the follow-up.

              A comment I heard today was that whilst the restrictions on household visiting are in place, why are we allowing driving lessons to take place when Miss A cannot visit her Granny for a cup of tea??

              Annie
              My husband, as everyone knows, is a driving instructor and wonders why he can have 6-8 different pupils everyday in his car but we cannot visit his mum or our daughters. Yes he needs to earn a living as we cannot live on fresh air but he also needs to keep safe. The government wants to keep the economy going no matter what.
              don't want to work, just want to cruise.

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                #22
                So I have just read that the number of cases has now surpassed that of March?? So why have the number in hospital and those dying are no where near that. Do they just know how to treat it better? Are the majority of people just able to handle it?

                It just feels like you can work, and that's it! You know what they say about 'All work, and no play' .................................................. ................Carol

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by carol, welwyn garden city View Post
                  So I have just read that the number of cases has now surpassed that of March?? So why have the number in hospital and those dying are no where near that. Do they just know how to treat it better? Are the majority of people just able to handle it?

                  It just feels like you can work, and that's it! You know what they say about 'All work, and no play' .................................................. ................Carol
                  The numbers now may be more accurate, back in March we had no idea of the number of infections, they were all guesses as we had no community testing. Blaming the young now does not make any sense as we have no idea how many had it before. They have never been tested before. Also likely that we will stop testing them as the demand for tests outstrips the supply by around 3 to 4 times.
                  The numbers in hospital and dying are down, could be due to the vulnerable being more aware and shielding, aswell as improved treatment

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by carol, welwyn garden city View Post
                    So I have just read that the number of cases has now surpassed that of March?? So why have the number in hospital and those dying are no where near that. Do they just know how to treat it better? Are the majority of people just able to handle it?

                    It just feels like you can work, and that's it! You know what they say about 'All work, and no play' .................................................. ................Carol
                    I was told by a consultant friend, the medics have more idea how this virus works. For instance, blood thinners can help prevent pulmonary embolisms, a condition which killed many early inpatients, and using ventilators wasn’t the be all and end all etc.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by jc, liverpool View Post
                      They should have carried guns and said they were grouse shooting,,,,,,,,,,,
                      Wasnt this BEFORE the Rule of 6,,,,,,there are members on here who have attended partys in restaurants or gardens with more people than 8.
                      JC
                      6 if you want to watch birds, 30 if you want to shoot them

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by carol, welwyn garden city View Post
                        So I have just read that the number of cases has now surpassed that of March?? So why have the number in hospital and those dying are no where near that. Do they just know how to treat it better? Are the majority of people just able to handle it?

                        It just feels like you can work, and that's it! You know what they say about 'All work, and no play' .................................................. ................Carol



                        From this report it appears the hospital admissions with Covid 19 are highest level for two months since July 1st.

                        https://www.standard.co.uk/news/heal...-a4548796.html
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Delboy, Essex View Post




                          From this report it appears the hospital admissions with Covid 19 are highest level for two months since July 1st.

                          https://www.standard.co.uk/news/heal...-a4548796.html
                          Now thats a headline.....more people going to hospital when everyone is at work, school and socialising compared to when everyone was not allowed out.

                          Seriously we are now comparing data with when the whole country was in lockdown.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by andyn, Bucks View Post

                            Now thats a headline.....more people going to hospital when everyone is at work, school and socialising compared to when everyone was not allowed out.

                            Seriously we are now comparing data with when the whole country was in lockdown.




                            This is from the Guardian Covid hospital admissions and ventilation cases rising in England, figures show

                            The figure on the summary page of the UK government’s coronavirus dashboard for hospital admissions has not been updated since 2 September (because Scotland’s data only comes out weekly) but within the healthcare page there are statistics showing hospital admissions, hospital numbers and mechanical ventilation patients for England are all going up. Here are the key points.
                            • The daily total for Covid patients being admitted to hospital in England has now passed 150. On 13 September, the most recent day for which a figure is available, it was 153. The previous day it was 143. Only a week ago the numbers were in double figures. The total has not been as high as 150 since early July. This is from John Roberts, a contributor to the work of the Covid-19 Actuaries Response Group, earlier today.
                            • The total number of coronavirus patients in hospital in England has now reached 866. That is the figure for 15 September, up from 782 the previous day. It has not been as high as this since late July.
                            • The number of hospital patients in England receiving mechanical ventilation has now passed 100 again. Today’s figure is 101. It has not been this high since late July


                            16:25 UK records 3,105 more coronavirus cases as recent sharp increase maintained

                            And the UK government has just updated the daily figures on its coronavirus dashboard. Here are the main figures.
                            • The daily number of coronavirus cases has risen above 3,000 again. Today’s count is 3,105, up from 2,621 yesterday. Today’s total is lower than was recorded at the end of last week, but it is still only the fourth time the daily total has been above 3,000 since the end of May. The recent trend - a sharp increase - is being maintained.
                            • The UK has recorded 27 more coronavirus deaths. This is the highest daily recorded total for a week. It takes the headline total to 41,664, but this figure only records people who have died within 28 days of a coronavirus test, and so it significantly understates the true number of coronavirus deaths in the UK. Taking into account all deaths where coronavirus was mentioned on the death certificate, there have been more than 57,400 UK deaths.



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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Delboy, Essex View Post





                              This is from the Guardian Covid hospital admissions and ventilation cases rising in England, figures show


                              The figure on the summary page of the UK government’s coronavirus dashboard for hospital admissions has not been updated since 2 September (because Scotland’s data only comes out weekly) but within the healthcare page there are statistics showing hospital admissions, hospital numbers and mechanical ventilation patients for England are all going up. Here are the key points.
                              • The daily total for Covid patients being admitted to hospital in England has now passed 150. On 13 September, the most recent day for which a figure is available, it was 153. The previous day it was 143. Only a week ago the numbers were in double figures. The total has not been as high as 150 since early July. This is from John Roberts, a contributor to the work of the Covid-19 Actuaries Response Group, earlier today.
                              • The total number of coronavirus patients in hospital in England has now reached 866. That is the figure for 15 September, up from 782 the previous day. It has not been as high as this since late July.
                              • The number of hospital patients in England receiving mechanical ventilation has now passed 100 again. Today’s figure is 101. It has not been this high since late July


                              16:25 UK records 3,105 more coronavirus cases as recent sharp increase maintained


                              And the UK government has just updated the daily figures on its coronavirus dashboard. Here are the main figures.
                              • The daily number of coronavirus cases has risen above 3,000 again. Today’s count is 3,105, up from 2,621 yesterday. Today’s total is lower than was recorded at the end of last week, but it is still only the fourth time the daily total has been above 3,000 since the end of May. The recent trend - a sharp increase - is being maintained.
                              • The UK has recorded 27 more coronavirus deaths. This is the highest daily recorded total for a week. It takes the headline total to 41,664, but this figure only records people who have died within 28 days of a coronavirus test, and so it significantly understates the true number of coronavirus deaths in the UK. Taking into account all deaths where coronavirus was mentioned on the death certificate, there have been more than 57,400 UK deaths.


                              and???????????? there are more people ill than during lockdown, I should hope so!!!!!!!

                              be bloody annoyed if we went through lockdown and the numbers were better when we all went back outside.
                              What do you take from all the numbers you are posting?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by andyn, Bucks View Post

                                What do you take from all the numbers you are posting?
                                I take that the figures are increasing as apposed to those who believe they are in decline.

                                Hence the reason they are being reported in the media, Sorry my postings seem to get under your skin.
                                Last edited by Delboy, Essex; 17th September 2020, 10:57 PM.
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