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  • Solent Richard, Lee on the Solent
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    Having completed two Eastern Mediterranean cruises in the last three months one rather odd statistic came to my attention.

    Both cruises sailed into Piraeus and one into Limassol.

    Piraeus happens to be where Louis Cruises has a large office which is passed when walking to or from the Piraeus railway station...






    Fondly referred to on the CruiseCritic website as the cruise line you never return to, Louis Cruises, it would appear, had a number of ships 'laid up' in Piraeus...

    The Orient Queen



    The Louis Cristal



    and...

    The Louis Olympia



    All three ships were as dead as dodos with the odd maintenance crew wandering around...



    Recognising that there is a kind of recession going on in Greece it does however appear that Louis Cruises don't have the stomach for late autumn and winter cruising. Or is this standard procedure for this rather budget level line: cruise while the sun shines.

    Another curiosity, also laid up, spotted in Limassol was Thomson's Island Escape...



    Talk about the Mary Celeste.

    I have noted that island escape is scheduled to restart her cruising itinerary on 13 March 2013 commencing with a 'Temples and Tavernas' itinerary.

    Is it just me or is there a distinct feeling that these budget cruise ships are feeling the pinch more than the major cruise lines?
    Last edited by Solent Richard, Lee on the Solent; 12th December 2012, 08:59 AM.

  • Solent Richard, Lee on the Solent
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    Well we have certainly established that the budget end of the cruising market is also seasonal.

    I guess their crews have longer leaves than others as well.

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  • Jonathan, Upper Arncott
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    [QUOTE=Pippa, Kernow;488947] 'Columbus 2' for example, reminded me of P&O's 'Adonia' when I saw her earlier this year, so at the time I wondered if they had been built by the same shipyard. That's all.

    Thats because they were. Both Adonia and Columbus 2 were built as a part of a set of 8 identical cruise ships for Renaissance Cruises who went bankrupt in the period following 9/11. Other examples are in service for Princess, Oceania and Azamara. They were all built by Chantiers de l'Atlantique at St. Nazaire in France, birth place of the QM2.

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  • pennbank, UK
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    Originally posted by MAGGIEMOU, CYPRUS View Post
    Well, I have never been asked to buy a mattress on Cunard. I am not aware that they sell them other than that people probably ask what make they are and then they recommend them the passengers. I can say though that the new beds with Sealy mattresses on them on Queen Elizabeth's maiden world cruise in 2011 were so comfy you could have stayed in bed all day and never have got up! I found them so comfortable and I am used to an expensive comfy bed as we have a Tempur mattress at home. Now as I say not sure about Cunard selling mattresses but I do know for certain they give them away to the poor people of Namibia. I took these photos earlier this year when QM2 was visiting. It took them all day to remove hundreds of mattresses from the ship and they were taken away for the locals to make use of. Good for Cunard recycling and saving the planet to hoot!

    see
    Sealy Cunarder Bed Range

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  • Jocap, Cumbria
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    I saw Louis ships laid up in Piraeus one Feb....we'd been on one of them a couple of years earlier. It's a little like ferry travelling, but we loved it and will return someday for the terrific itineraries. I've more memories of that cruise than of my next one, on a larger ship.

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  • Pippa, Kernow
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    Originally posted by Fossil1, London View Post
    I think Pippa was asking about Olympia not Artemis hence the reply from JC.
    Originally posted by Brian, South Ockendon View Post
    Hi Fossil1,
    Sorry, I thought Pippa was asking if she had been Artemis.
    Brian.
    Hi there Brian. I was curious about both ships as they appeared to be fairly similar in design so I wondered if they had been linked in some way in their past. It's just that I'll sometimes see the style/shape of ship but in a completely different livery. 'Columbus 2' for example, reminded me of P&O's 'Adonia' when I saw her earlier this year, so at the time I wondered if they had been built by the same shipyard. That's all.

    Anyway, thanks for the info everyone. You've been most kind.

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  • jc, liverpool
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    Originally posted by hat776, malta View Post
    Are any small ships being built ? From the Forum it seems that many people prefer smaller ships but the new builds all seem to be larger ships. With the big Cruise Lines charging such low fares it must surely make it difficult for companies like Louis to compete.
    Hi hat
    Louise specialises in Greek Isles + Turkey,,,,they lay up in the winter (First cruise in March),plus, i think most Greek Isles shut down in Winter.
    First cruise in March=5 Greek islands + Istanbul,,,,great for Island hopping!!!£450 for 7nts.
    I saw a Louise ship in Kos in June,,,never saw a big ship there.
    JC

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  • Fossil1, London
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    Page and Moy were sold for a reported 4.2 Million and are now part of the All Leisure Group who have their own cruise ships. Classic International are in voluntary administration. Does this tell us something about people in the main not wanting small ships any more or is it because smaller ships cost more to operate and thus the prices are higher?

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  • Malcolm, Essex
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    Originally posted by Diddy, Norwich View Post
    ...so I would go as far as suggesting it's the whole cruise industry feeling the pinch.
    I am sure that you are right Diddy.

    However, I have observed at my local cruise terminal (Tilbury) that a couple of years ago there was quite a range of smaller ships, from smaller cruise lines, visiting the port throughout the year (Arion, Van Gogh, Calypso etc.)

    Now there is just the 'Marco Polo' visiting regularly. 'Page and Moy' and 'Classic International' have pulled out of the cruise market, yet teh big ships still come to Southampton, Dover and Harwich.

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  • hat776, malta
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    Are any small ships being built ? From the Forum it seems that many people prefer smaller ships but the new builds all seem to be larger ships. With the big Cruise Lines charging such low fares it must surely make it difficult for companies like Louis to compete.

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  • Topdeck, London
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    Remember laying up an older ships is much cheaper than one that still has finance on it like most of those run by the majors.

    Island escape used to be £299 with flights and transfers when it was cheap with first choice.
    Thomsan Topaz used to do £400 AI cruises real AI jut about everything was included.

    There are some stonking deals as long as the school hols don't match.

    suites and villas on NCL are looking good if you can find flights

    anyone spot a NY trip can they stick it on the deals pages, still looking

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  • Brian, South Ockendon
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    Originally posted by Fossil1, London View Post
    I think Pippa was asking about Olympia not Artemis hence the reply from JC.
    Hi Fossil1,
    Sorry, I thought Pippa was asking if she had been Artemis.
    Brian.

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  • Fossil1, London
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    I think Pippa was asking about Olympia not Artemis hence the reply from JC.

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  • Brian, South Ockendon
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    Originally posted by jc, liverpool View Post
    Hi Pippa.
    She started life as RCL Song of America........but better known as the much loved Thomson Destiny.
    In between she was Airtours Sunbird.
    JC
    Hi JC,
    This link differs regarding Artemis's history, although you are correct regarding Louis Olympia originally being Song of America .MV Artania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    She was transferred to the P&O fleet in April 2005 and renamed Artemis by Prunella Scales. Artemis is one of the few cruise ships that do not have any inside cabins. Artemis was the smallest and oldest ship in the P&O cruises fleet.

    In 2010 the British woman Sarah Breton took charge of Artemis, becoming only the second female in the world to captain a major cruise ship and the first for P&O, following the Swedish woman Karin Stahre Janson, who took charge of MS Monarch of the Seas of Royal Caribbean Cruises in 2007.[6][7]

    On 22 September 2009, after numerous rumours, it was announced by P&O Cruises that the ship has been sold to Artania Shipping for an undisclosed sum of money. She continued to sail for P&O Cruises until April 22, 2011, when she passed to Phoenix Reisen as mv Artania.[8][9]

    Brian.
    Last edited by Brian, South Ockendon; 12th December 2012, 10:34 PM.

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  • Dancing Queen, Chesterfield
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    Originally posted by MAGGIEMOU, CYPRUS View Post
    Well, I have never been asked to buy a mattress on Cunard. I am not aware that they sell them other than that people probably ask what make they are and then they recommend them the passengers. I can say though that the new beds with Sealy mattresses on them on Queen Elizabeth's maiden world cruise in 2011 were so comfy you could have stayed in bed all day and never have got up! I found them so comfortable and I am used to an expensive comfy bed as we have a Tempur mattress at home. Now as I say not sure about Cunard selling mattresses but I do know for certain they give them away to the poor people of Namibia. I took these photos earlier this year when QM2 was visiting. It took them all day to remove hundreds of mattresses from the ship and they were taken away for the locals to make use of. Good for Cunard recycling and saving the planet to hoot!


    As far as I'm aware Maggie it wouldn't be possible to buy any mattress as they are usually a specific requirement of the cruise line, I discovered this when ( I think it was Aurora changed their mattress's ) they were so comfortable that I rang P&O to find out what they were, they did give me details but said I wouldn't be able to purchase exactly the same.

    As for re-cycling, we were on QE2 after ( and during ) the famous refit of 1994 and when we arrived in Caracas they off loaded beds/tables/chairs and goodness knows what else, within a couple of hours the locals had refurnished their homes !!!

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