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    #16
    Originally posted by bobbybuoy, peterborough View Post
    Hi Jo

    I actually saw the Azura Christmas cruise advertised for £415 in a local travel agent last Saturday. My first 7 night cruise on the Island Escape over ten years ago had a lead-in price of £465.

    When you consider that P&O have similar on-board prices to Thomson and Island and are offering cruises at similar prices per night, then I'm not surprised that the IE is laid up. That said, I'm not suggesting that everyone would choose Azura over Island Escape, but I would say it is the superior ship.

    Bob
    not even simiar prices. i have a 14 nighter on P&O Oceana next July to the med and the equivalent on Thomson Dream would cost me over £500 more, yes £500! I am not kidding. for me Thomson are rapidly pricing themselves out of consideration. I can get equivalent cruises with other cruiselines on superior hardware for less money.

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      #17
      The Louis Cristal is particularly unlucky having been rebuilt twice, once it was more or less completely burnt out and only the hull survived and once after it ran aground.It's also had 6 different names and 5 different cruise lines.She was also used as a floating Hotel for the Barcelona Olympics.
      Recognised the RCL connection of the Olympia straight away, RCCL had those observation Lounges on all their ships at one time, although some had them removed when they changed ownership,like the Nordic Prince which I sailed on as the Carousel, which funnily enough became a Louis ship and is now laid up,now owned by someone else.
      Older ships have periods of being laid up and then some end up as razor blades,always increased in hard times.The numbers that disappeared in the early 1970's were frightening.

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        #18
        Originally posted by bobbybuoy, peterborough View Post
        Hi Jo

        I actually saw the Azura Christmas cruise advertised for £415 in a local travel agent last Saturday. My first 7 night cruise on the Island Escape over ten years ago had a lead-in price of £465.

        When you consider that P&O have similar on-board prices to Thomson and Island and are offering cruises at similar prices per night, then I'm not surprised that the IE is laid up. That said, I'm not suggesting that everyone would choose Azura over Island Escape, but I would say it is the superior ship.

        Bob
        Funnily enough Bob our first cruise in 1989 was on board Song of America ( as mentioned by JC ) when it belonged to RCI, I remember it cost £1299 for a 7 day Caribbean cruise - at the time an enormous amount of money to us, we even pushed the boat out and upgraded our flight to Club Class that was another £599 ( they say you never forget your first cruise !! )
        Jo

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          #19
          Originally posted by MAGGIEMOU, CYPRUS View Post
          Well, I have never been asked to buy a mattress on Cunard. I am not aware that they sell them other than that people probably ask what make they are and then they recommend them the passengers. I can say though that the new beds with Sealy mattresses on them on Queen Elizabeth's maiden world cruise in 2011 were so comfy you could have stayed in bed all day and never have got up! I found them so comfortable and I am used to an expensive comfy bed as we have a Tempur mattress at home. Now as I say not sure about Cunard selling mattresses but I do know for certain they give them away to the poor people of Namibia. I took these photos earlier this year when QM2 was visiting. It took them all day to remove hundreds of mattresses from the ship and they were taken away for the locals to make use of. Good for Cunard recycling and saving the planet to hoot!


          As far as I'm aware Maggie it wouldn't be possible to buy any mattress as they are usually a specific requirement of the cruise line, I discovered this when ( I think it was Aurora changed their mattress's ) they were so comfortable that I rang P&O to find out what they were, they did give me details but said I wouldn't be able to purchase exactly the same.

          As for re-cycling, we were on QE2 after ( and during ) the famous refit of 1994 and when we arrived in Caracas they off loaded beds/tables/chairs and goodness knows what else, within a couple of hours the locals had refurnished their homes !!!
          Jo

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            #20
            Originally posted by jc, liverpool View Post
            Hi Pippa.
            She started life as RCL Song of America........but better known as the much loved Thomson Destiny.
            In between she was Airtours Sunbird.
            JC
            Hi JC,
            This link differs regarding Artemis's history, although you are correct regarding Louis Olympia originally being Song of America .MV Artania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
            She was transferred to the P&O fleet in April 2005 and renamed Artemis by Prunella Scales. Artemis is one of the few cruise ships that do not have any inside cabins. Artemis was the smallest and oldest ship in the P&O cruises fleet.

            In 2010 the British woman Sarah Breton took charge of Artemis, becoming only the second female in the world to captain a major cruise ship and the first for P&O, following the Swedish woman Karin Stahre Janson, who took charge of MS Monarch of the Seas of Royal Caribbean Cruises in 2007.[6][7]

            On 22 September 2009, after numerous rumours, it was announced by P&O Cruises that the ship has been sold to Artania Shipping for an undisclosed sum of money. She continued to sail for P&O Cruises until April 22, 2011, when she passed to Phoenix Reisen as mv Artania.[8][9]

            Brian.
            Last edited by Brian, South Ockendon; 12th December 2012, 10:34 PM.

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              #21
              I think Pippa was asking about Olympia not Artemis hence the reply from JC.
              Fossil1

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                #22
                Originally posted by Fossil1, London View Post
                I think Pippa was asking about Olympia not Artemis hence the reply from JC.
                Hi Fossil1,
                Sorry, I thought Pippa was asking if she had been Artemis.
                Brian.

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                  #23
                  Remember laying up an older ships is much cheaper than one that still has finance on it like most of those run by the majors.

                  Island escape used to be £299 with flights and transfers when it was cheap with first choice.
                  Thomsan Topaz used to do £400 AI cruises real AI jut about everything was included.

                  There are some stonking deals as long as the school hols don't match.

                  suites and villas on NCL are looking good if you can find flights

                  anyone spot a NY trip can they stick it on the deals pages, still looking

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                    #24
                    Are any small ships being built ? From the Forum it seems that many people prefer smaller ships but the new builds all seem to be larger ships. With the big Cruise Lines charging such low fares it must surely make it difficult for companies like Louis to compete.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Diddy, Norwich View Post
                      ...so I would go as far as suggesting it's the whole cruise industry feeling the pinch.
                      I am sure that you are right Diddy.

                      However, I have observed at my local cruise terminal (Tilbury) that a couple of years ago there was quite a range of smaller ships, from smaller cruise lines, visiting the port throughout the year (Arion, Van Gogh, Calypso etc.)

                      Now there is just the 'Marco Polo' visiting regularly. 'Page and Moy' and 'Classic International' have pulled out of the cruise market, yet teh big ships still come to Southampton, Dover and Harwich.
                      See my cruise blog: HERE

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                        #26
                        Page and Moy were sold for a reported 4.2 Million and are now part of the All Leisure Group who have their own cruise ships. Classic International are in voluntary administration. Does this tell us something about people in the main not wanting small ships any more or is it because smaller ships cost more to operate and thus the prices are higher?
                        Fossil1

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by hat776, malta View Post
                          Are any small ships being built ? From the Forum it seems that many people prefer smaller ships but the new builds all seem to be larger ships. With the big Cruise Lines charging such low fares it must surely make it difficult for companies like Louis to compete.
                          Hi hat
                          Louise specialises in Greek Isles + Turkey,,,,they lay up in the winter (First cruise in March),plus, i think most Greek Isles shut down in Winter.
                          First cruise in March=5 Greek islands + Istanbul,,,,great for Island hopping!!!£450 for 7nts.
                          I saw a Louise ship in Kos in June,,,never saw a big ship there.
                          JC
                          C P Scott,,,,,"Comment is Free,,but Facts are Sacred"
                          "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Fossil1, London View Post
                            I think Pippa was asking about Olympia not Artemis hence the reply from JC.
                            Originally posted by Brian, South Ockendon View Post
                            Hi Fossil1,
                            Sorry, I thought Pippa was asking if she had been Artemis.
                            Brian.
                            Hi there Brian. I was curious about both ships as they appeared to be fairly similar in design so I wondered if they had been linked in some way in their past. It's just that I'll sometimes see the style/shape of ship but in a completely different livery. 'Columbus 2' for example, reminded me of P&O's 'Adonia' when I saw her earlier this year, so at the time I wondered if they had been built by the same shipyard. That's all.

                            Anyway, thanks for the info everyone. You've been most kind.

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                              #29
                              I saw Louis ships laid up in Piraeus one Feb....we'd been on one of them a couple of years earlier. It's a little like ferry travelling, but we loved it and will return someday for the terrific itineraries. I've more memories of that cruise than of my next one, on a larger ship.
                              Jo.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by MAGGIEMOU, CYPRUS View Post
                                Well, I have never been asked to buy a mattress on Cunard. I am not aware that they sell them other than that people probably ask what make they are and then they recommend them the passengers. I can say though that the new beds with Sealy mattresses on them on Queen Elizabeth's maiden world cruise in 2011 were so comfy you could have stayed in bed all day and never have got up! I found them so comfortable and I am used to an expensive comfy bed as we have a Tempur mattress at home. Now as I say not sure about Cunard selling mattresses but I do know for certain they give them away to the poor people of Namibia. I took these photos earlier this year when QM2 was visiting. It took them all day to remove hundreds of mattresses from the ship and they were taken away for the locals to make use of. Good for Cunard recycling and saving the planet to hoot!

                                see
                                Sealy Cunarder Bed Range

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