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    #31
    Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post

    I love train travel.

    However in the UK travelling on the train with 'hold' luggage can present challenges.

    However you can travel from Nagasaki to Yokohama (600 miles approx ) in 7 hours sending your luggage on ahead - bliss. It is not bullet train all the way either.

    Annie
    You can send your luggage ahead in the U.K. too Annie. We stored our 2 large suitcases and hand luggage without any problems on the train.
    don't want to work, just want to cruise.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Issyalex, Glasgow View Post

      You can send your luggage ahead in the U.K. too Annie. We stored our 2 large suitcases and hand luggage without any problems on the train.
      Japanese luggage forwards service is both affordable and reliable - £20 for a very large suitcase next day delivery door to door.

      If I found a UK company offering the same quality service at that price point, they would have my business.

      Annie
      Last edited by annie, Glasgow; 15th January 2020, 03:07 PM.

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        #33
        Interesting that the Government stepped in this time but let Thomas Cook and Monarch go to the wall.
        It's not just Southampton that heavily relies on Flybe Exeter and Belfast do too.

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          #34
          Originally posted by philhar, wallasey View Post
          Interesting that the Government stepped in this time but let Thomas Cook and Monarch go to the wall.
          It's not just Southampton that heavily relies on Flybe Exeter and Belfast do too.
          TBH I am not convinced the govt should have allowed Flybe to defer their tax bill for 3 years.

          Imagine if we all write to Sajid Savid and ask him if we could defer our tax bills because we were experiencing cash flow issues.

          Annie

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            #35
            Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post

            TBH I am not convinced the govt should have allowed Flybe to defer their tax bill for 3 years.

            Imagine if we all write to Sajid Savid and ask him if we could defer our tax bills because we were experiencing cash flow issues.

            Annie
            I could imagine what his reply would be, but could not post it on here without a load of *’s.

            But I am sure you are well aware of the reasons why in comparison to Flybe.😉😎

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              #36
              Hi all
              Corporate Welfare again,,,,,,,if it was a Labour government that did it the Tories would have been screaming "Socialists spending taxpayers money".

              Its not as if Richard Branson is on the bones of his backside.

              I'm all for it if it saves jobs,,,,,but didn't Branson,Stobart and the very rich Cyrus investment fund do due diligence before they bought Flybe.
              If they think the only problem is cash flow,why don't they temporarily fund it themselves?
              JC
              Last edited by jc, liverpool; 15th January 2020, 04:09 PM.
              C P Scott,,,,,"Comment is Free,,but Facts are Sacred"
              "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

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                #37
                Originally posted by philhar, wallasey View Post
                Interesting that the Government stepped in this time but let Thomas Cook and Monarch go to the wall.
                It's not just Southampton that heavily relies on Flybe Exeter and Belfast do too.
                I do see a difference.

                Monarch and Thom Cook were geared to the bucket and spade holidaymakers.

                Fly Be is an important commuter airline within the UK and near continent and could have far more impact on work and industry, as opposed to pleasure............Wilba
                Wilba

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Delboy, Essex View Post

                  I could imagine what his reply would be, but could not post it on here without a load of *’s.

                  But I am sure you are well aware of the reasons why in comparison to Flybe.😉😎
                  Yes I am but Flybe has not made a profit in 5 years.

                  The current owners bought the assets in 2019 for £2.2 million and promised to invest £100 million.

                  Not 1 year later, the govt agreed to defer a tax liability of £100 million. Coincidence??

                  So the company collected taxes from the consumer and has not handed them over. Maybe we should all ask for our money back.

                  Annie

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Wilba View Post

                    I do see a difference.

                    Monarch and Thom Cook were geared to the bucket and spade holidaymakers.

                    Fly Be is an important commuter airline within the UK and near continent and could have far more impact on work and industry, as opposed to pleasure............Wilba
                    Exactly. which is what Boris alluded to in his TV interview yesterday. I'm sure that if Flybe was just a holiday airline, then they would have been left to go under.
                    Jill

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Smith7 View Post

                      Exactly. which is what Boris alluded to in his TV interview yesterday. I'm sure that if Flybe was just a holiday airline, then they would have been left to go under.
                      Hi Jill
                      How do you know what Boris alluded to,i saw that interview it was all pifflepafflewifflewaffle.

                      I had to read a report to get this one "Bung a bob for Big Ben Bongs"

                      JC
                      C P Scott,,,,,"Comment is Free,,but Facts are Sacred"
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by jc, liverpool View Post

                        Hi Jill
                        How do you know what Boris alluded to,i saw that interview it was all pifflepafflewifflewaffle.

                        I had to read a report to get this one "Bung a bob for Big Ben Bongs"

                        JC
                        Hi JC

                        Referring to Delboy's chart, I note that 3 of the airports on the list are tax havens - was that a factor in the decision making process??

                        Annie

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by jc, liverpool View Post

                          Hi Jill
                          How do you know what Boris alluded to,i saw that interview it was all pifflepafflewifflewaffle.

                          I had to read a report to get this one "Bung a bob for Big Ben Bongs"

                          JC
                          Oh JC, I just knew that you would challenge my post.

                          Boris was previously talking about the need for easier travel to where the jobs are. If we lost airports due to Flybe going under, it wouldn't help anyone would it?
                          Jill

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                            #43
                            It's consistency that's the issue here.The same reasons quoted for not intervening would largely apply to Flybe too.As JC said some very wealthy companies bought this company 12 months ago for a song,why can't they put more money in?I know they are putting some more in but they could afford more.
                            The commuter/connection argument doesn't really work either as bus and train companies have been allowed to go to the wall.
                            As for trying to get the public to contribute money to get Big Ben to ring,really you couldn't make it up.

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                              #44
                              What are the benefits of saving Flybe as apposed to letting it go under, excluding the owners and shareholders. ?
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                                #45
                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51140969

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