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    Ventura's family focus receives mixed response

    MS Ventura, the flagship in the P&O Cruises fleet, could leave parents wishing they left the kids at home.

    Described as the first "superliner built for Britain", the vessel was designed with families in mind, according to the Telegraph's Sara Macefield.

    But while she lauded the children's club as being "first-rate" in providing entertainment for children as late as midnight, the travel writer added that there were problems with bringing the children along.

    That is because, unlike some of the competition, Ventura stipulates that one parent or legal guardian must always remain on board while their children are in the kid's club.

    "At a stroke, this denied us our prized pleasure of simply wandering ashore to do as we pleased without our daughters' constant requests for ice creams and drinks interspersed with complaints of being tired, thirsty, hungry and bored," Ms Macefield lamented.

    A "grand" class cruise ship that was launched in 2008, Ventura can accommodate 3,100 passengers and is based in Hamilton, the capital of Bermuda.

    Would you be willing to take the youngsters on a cruise?

    #2
    Hmm, seems to me Ms Macefield is a bit of a pain. If her daughter complains all the time, it says a lot about the way she has brought the child up, obviously following in Mothers footsteps!!

    I think Ventura are right in insisting that one parent or legal guardian must remain on board, whilst their children are in the kids club. It's called taking responsibility! Far too many people want to relinquish it, when it suits them! Lizzie.
    Lizzie sigpic

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      #3
      I agree Lizzie. Personally I just find it bizarre that parents love to dump their children with total strangers then complain because they can not leave the ship.

      I thought family holidays were a family event, when I was a child we spent 2 weeks somewhere as a family doing family things, not my brother and I in a childrens club for 2 weeks and my parents having a lovely childfree holiday.

      I think P&O have got it right, good children's club with parents near if needed.

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        #4
        Originally posted by redwinegirl2, Lake District View Post
        I agree Lizzie. Personally I just find it bizarre that parents love to dump their children with total strangers then complain because they can not leave the ship.

        I thought family holidays were a family event, when I was a child we spent 2 weeks somewhere as a family doing family things, not my brother and I in a childrens club for 2 weeks and my parents having a lovely childfree holiday.

        I think P&O have got it right, good children's club with parents near if needed.
        I agree, take responsibility parents, it would be terrible if child fell ill or was hurt and they were ashore.

        I's a family holiday after all
        Helen

        the keeper Loobyloo, Hugo and Tinkerbell (the cats) and The Cluckingtons (the chickens)

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          #5
          Some people have no sense whatsoever they just want to dump their kids and go oh but if anything should happen to their little darlings then watch the sparks fly as to see who they can blame :mad:

          mrs.m
          life is great :D

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            #6
            Originally posted by Seasick, Scotland View Post
            Some people have no sense whatsoever they just want to dump their kids and go oh but if anything should happen to their little darlings then watch the sparks fly as to see who they can blame :mad:

            mrs.m
            So true.

            Unfortunately that's now the parenting culture of some people in the UK.

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              #7
              It is perfectly reasonable to expect one parent to stay on board. We have never had a problem with that when with P&O. Their clubs are first class.

              When we travelled with RCI we found out that we could leave our kids on the ship and go ashore. We did this once when stopping at Monte Carlo (to visit the casino). The children had to be signed in first and out when we returned, but I still worried about them and only went off ship for a couple of hours. This seem a lot of fuss about nothing.

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                #8
                What do the parents do while the children are cared for by qualified and competent professionals. Its a holiday, i'm sure the kids wont be worrying what their folks are doing so whats the problem with the parents spending quality time on their own ashore, if only for a couple of hours.

                There are some bitter folk amongst you posters on this forum

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wingerowl, Chesterfield View Post
                  What do the parents do while the children are cared for by qualified and competent professionals. Its a holiday, i'm sure the kids wont be worrying what their folks are doing so whats the problem with the parents spending quality time on their own ashore, if only for a couple of hours.

                  There are some bitter folk amongst you posters on this forum
                  Ignoring your silly bitter remark jibe. Do you not think your children would enjoy being with their parents exploring a new country as a family? Obviously your children prefer the company of strangers, which says a lot about your parenting skills my love. Good luck with that.

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                    #10
                    So what are you suggesting then ? Is it that while children are at school their parents should remain within the school grounds all day instead of working just in case their children suffer a grazed knee. Should we ban baby sitters while parents enjoy a night out ??

                    Parents deserve a rest too and while each working day of every week of the year a parent strives to provide a good life for their children, for 2 weeks of the year you are suggesting they should not be able to leave their children with qualified professionals where they will be happier than being "dragged" around a port if only for a couple of hours.

                    I do not have children "my love".

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Wingerowl, Chesterfield View Post
                      So what are you suggesting then ? Is it that while children are at school their parents should remain within the school grounds all day instead of working just in case their children suffer a grazed knee. Should we ban baby sitters while parents enjoy a night out ??

                      Parents deserve a rest too and while each working day of every week of the year a parent strives to provide a good life for their children, for 2 weeks of the year you are suggesting they should not be able to leave their children with qualified professionals where they will be happier than being "dragged" around a port if only for a couple of hours.

                      I do not have children "my love".
                      If you do not have children, hence the reason you want to lock them up, I'm actually all for that.

                      You seem to be going around the board attacking people, bad day my love??

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by redwinegirl2, Lake District View Post
                        If you do not have children, hence the reason you want to lock them up, I'm actually all for that.

                        You seem to be going around the board attacking people, bad day my love??
                        "Attacking" is a very strong and inappropriate word to use in this context. I'm merely stating an alternative view, my love.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wingerowl, Chesterfield View Post
                          "Attacking" is a very strong and inappropriate word to use in this context. I'm merely stating an alternative view, my love.
                          Actually in your case it is very appropriate.

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                            #14
                            Both Views

                            I actually think that both views are valid, I think it all depends on the age of the children, having worked in the holiday business, alot of younger children are just so bored when it comes to looking around places, i'm sort of talking maybe 0-10 years, they would learn far more from a well organised childrens club and interaction with other children instead of being dragged around, people leave there children as nursery centers etc, so what would be the difference, when the parents return they go and check, and proberbly most children wont know that the parents had gone anyway..

                            People at times need space to wind down, wether with or without children, what would you say if the parents had gone on holiday and the kids was left with the grandparents as the parents may think they are to young, It wouldnt mean the the grandparents would do a better job than the organised clubs.

                            I also think that, and having seen it many times, that Parents bring there children on holiday far to early in life, Reason being that, when you go away foreign countries have different facilities, the water and food is different, the heat of the sun can cause many poblems.

                            If the Cruise line advertises A children club, then is that the reason why they choose these ships, so they can have the best of both worlds (A) for parents to have a few hrs to themselves (B) the children, can learn to intreract with other children and maybe learn at the same time..

                            maybe the cruise ships that have childrens facilities should be made responsible for those children under there care as in schools, nurseries etc, if not then maybe they shouldn't advertise childres clubs..

                            When we was on Ventura last year, on halloween the kids of all ages was having a fantastic time with the event i assume being run by the childrens club, they wouldnt be thinking if there parents was ok, they were having a ball,, bet the parents was worried about them though,,,
                            Last edited by Brian, Swinton; 6th November 2009, 12:39 PM. Reason: more to put

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Brian, Swinton View Post
                              I actually think that both views are valid, I think it all depends on the age of the children, having worked in the holiday business, alot of younger children are just so bored when it comes to looking around places, i'm sort of talking maybe 0-10 years, they would learn far more from a well organised childrens club and interaction with other children instead of being dragged around, people leave there children as nursery centers etc, so what would be the difference, when the parents return they go and check, and proberbly most children wont know that the parents had gone anyway..

                              People at times need space to wind down, wether with or without children, what would you say if the parents had gone on holiday and the kids was left with the grandparents as the parents may think they are to young, It wouldnt mean the the grandparents would do a better job than the organised clubs.

                              I also think that, and having seen it many times, that Parents bring there children on holiday far to early in life, Reason being that, when you go away foreign countries have different facilities, the water and food is different, the heat of the sun can cause many poblems.

                              If the Cruise line advertises A children club, then is that the reason why they choose these ships, so they can have the best of both worlds (A) for parents to have a few hrs to themselves (B) the children, can learn to intreract with other children and maybe learn at the same time..

                              maybe the cruise ships that have childrens facilities should be made responsible for those children under there care as in schools, nurseries etc, if not then maybe they shouldn't advertise childres clubs..

                              When we was on Ventura last year, on halloween the kids of all ages was having a fantastic time with the event i assume being run by the childrens club, they wouldnt be thinking if there parents was ok, they were having a ball,, bet the parents was worried about them though,,,
                              A very fair and balanced comment Brian. I can also see both sides of the argument.

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