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    have been on qm2 a few times with my civil partner and have attempted to join in the friends of dorothy meetings.we were firmly told that these groups were only open to gay men not women and we werent welcome.why?

    #2
    When I was on the Summit in January they also had a friends of Lois, does anyone know what this is ?

    Sorry I haven't answered your question but it is kind of on topic.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Patience32, Devon View Post
      When I was on the Summit in January they also had a friends of Lois, does anyone know what this is ?

      Sorry I haven't answered your question but it is kind of on topic.
      Here's some info:

      Friends of Lois is an email group with a strong focus on Al-Anon recovery. We generally have one new topic per week and ask every member who is able to share on the topic. Shares are limited to topics, one of the Steps, Traditions, Concepts or a request for help; no announcements or off-topic chat. We have a separate list which serves as a forum for occasional business issues and for group conscience discussions. Subscribing to Friends of Lois automatically subscribes one to the business list, but the member may opt off the business list at any time without affecting their Friends of Lois membership.
      Friends of Lois grew originally by word of mouth (or email) and is made up mostly of people who were on AOL. Our meeting has existed for several years and is registered as an online group with Al-Anon World Service Office. This means we are also listed on the Online Al-Anon Information Service web page making us more accessible to those seeking on-line Al-Anon meetings. Our group number is 062770. Our membership is multi-national.
      From: Friends of Lois

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      We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.sigpic

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        #4
        Discrimination?

        Originally posted by meezer, nottingham View Post
        have been on qm2 a few times with my civil partner and have attempted to join in the friends of dorothy meetings.we were firmly told that these groups were only open to gay men not women and we werent welcome.why?

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          #5
          Originally posted by meezer, nottingham View Post
          have been on qm2 a few times with my civil partner and have attempted to join in the friends of dorothy meetings.we were firmly told that these groups were only open to gay men not women and we werent welcome.why?
          What an unpleasant way to treat you! I think I might be temped to make a somewhat less than ladylike gesture(or at least think it!) then walk away and meet and become friendly with others on board, of whatever sexual persuasion!!Hope you will be happy on your next cruise, with cunard or elsewhere. Cynthia

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            #6
            Hi

            ?Who told you? a staff member? I'm gay and a FOD get together should be for all GLBT people. If it was a participant then I think they were being rude. If it was a staff member then they need to be informed. Several cruiselines call it a GLBT gettogether which cuts out the confusion.
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              #7
              On princess its called GLBT

              http://www.cruises.co.uk/53-daily_pr...programme.html
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                #8
                I'm also interested in who it was that told you you 'weren't welcome'.

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                  #9
                  it wasnt staff but a fod passenger

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                    #10
                    Were fellow Cunarder's - oft travelling as part of extended family group. On our very first Transatlantic, we were also curious of the afternoon "Friends of Bill & Dorothy" meetings.
                    My Hubby (6ft 1, slim & athletic) pitched up and was made very welcome, enquiries were soon made of status and if travelling with partner? ...shortly after our teenage Son (young, also 6ft 1, slim & athletic) pitched up, another very warm welcome was extended - plus plenty of lively banter exchanged, lots of humour and laughs, (Hubby & Son were in no doubt of this "Friends of Bill" = gay gathering). On cue, I pitched up and was introduced as partner and Mother of teenager - much laughter, nudges and exchanged glances ensued...We struck up some lively conversations and the late afternoon passed by as a real hoot. We pitched up the following day, plus on another day and again we were made most welcome. Life is really what you make it!
                    drop by and say hello to friends of "Bill & Dorothy"
                    Lancashire Cunarder

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                      #11
                      I think that it is disgraceful that you were not welcome as I'm sure that you felt a bit upset-I know I would have done. However, I just don't understand why the meetings have to be 'cloak and dagger' held under the daft names they are-(on one ship they called the lesbian meeting 'Red Caps' or something) I thought that gay men and women were supposed to be out of the closet and 'loud and proud' now not hidden away, so they should just call it Gay and Lesbian Get-Together or something.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Vockings, Bristol View Post
                        I think that it is disgraceful that you were not welcome as I'm sure that you felt a bit upset-I know I would have done. However, I just don't understand why the meetings have to be 'cloak and dagger' held under the daft names they are-(on one ship they called the lesbian meeting 'Red Caps' or something) I thought that gay men and women were supposed to be out of the closet and 'loud and proud' now not hidden away, so they should just call it Gay and Lesbian Get-Together or something.
                        There is a Red Hat Society that started in the US but it's a literary theme I was told, ladies who lunch .

                        Perhaps Red Cap is a tongue in cheek name.

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                          #13
                          Forgive my ignorance, but when I was on QM2 I saw 'Friends of Dorothy' and 'Friends of Bill W' on the Daily Activity Sheet. I brought it up at dinner suggesting it was for gay and lesbian and was advised it was 'Al. Anon.'.

                          Is this just a cruising thing, as if I was interested in either of the above then how would I know it was for me?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by cruisegas, cruisegas View Post
                            Were fellow Cunarder's - oft travelling as part of extended family group. On our very first Transatlantic, we were also curious of the afternoon "Friends of Bill & Dorothy" meetings.
                            My Hubby (6ft 1, slim & athletic) pitched up and was made very welcome, enquiries were soon made of status and if travelling with partner? ...shortly after our teenage Son (young, also 6ft 1, slim & athletic) pitched up, another very warm welcome was extended - plus plenty of lively banter exchanged, lots of humour and laughs, (Hubby & Son were in no doubt of this "Friends of Bill" = gay gathering). On cue, I pitched up and was introduced as partner and Mother of teenager - much laughter, nudges and exchanged glances ensued...We struck up some lively conversations and the late afternoon passed by as a real hoot. We pitched up the following day, plus on another day and again we were made most welcome. Life is really what you make it!
                            drop by and say hello to friends of "Bill & Dorothy"

                            Friends of Bill W are a social network, part of Alcoholics Anonymous.
                            Friends of Dorothy are gay men...

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                              #15
                              Is there a club for gay women ?

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