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  • Wilba
    started a topic Are We Becoming Food Snowflakes?

    Are We Becoming Food Snowflakes?


    I was recently asked to give someone advice on a number of Far Eastern ports of call, so I telephoned the lady and told her everything I could remember off the top of my head and offered to email her a blog I had written if I could find it on the internet.

    One of my pet moans about cruise food is blandness and lack of taste and flavour, so I was quite surprised when I found my blog, that my only real complaint about the whole cruise was bland, tasteless food. This was written 11 years ago regarding a RCI ship. I know this is a regular moan from me, but I had no idea I was complaining about this as far back as 11 years ago.

    On my last Celebrity cruise I ordered from Always Available Menu, Escargots. They were pathetic. If I order escargots, I want to smell the garlic before it even leaves the galley and I want to reek offensively of it for the next three days. I want food cooked and presented as it should be, not a pale substitute.

    Some might see that comment as OTT, but quite honestly, if I went into any basic restaurant in France, I would expect nothing less.

    The same goes for their beautifully presented desserts. They look scrumptious, but taste of absolutely nothing. I’m not just singling out Celebrity, as RCI, Princess, P&O, MSC are equally at fault, in some cases more so.

    It’s not just the more extreme International flavours I’m ranting about, it’s basic meat and two veg that I find equally tasteless. Some of the meats are so bland, for all I know, I could be eating that reconstituted stuff made from Soya Bean.

    I realise that ships are getting bigger, which means food has to be prepared further and further in advance, and then go some kind of preservation process, either heat or steam, and it’s that preservation that destroys the taste, even changing the colour of the meat in some cases. I recognise that with mass catering this is unlikely to change, but even some basic seasoning would add something to the flavours.

    I have done many P&O cruises over the years, and well remember when their food was highly regarded, but in the last decade I give them little consideration as their food has been so bland and tasteless on the few cruises I have done with them, I think, why bother?

    Is it just me, or is the reality the cruiselines are simply pandering to minority, don’t eat, can’t eat, won’t eat snowflakes, or are the ‘suits in charge’ just trying to be all things, to all men?

    I appreciate some folk have allergies and they should be catered for without exception, but the mass of cruisers don’t, so why should we, the majority, be subjected to such pale imitations…………..Wilba





  • Issyalex, Glasgow
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    Hubby calls me a food snob but as long as I get what I paid for I’m happy. Eg I don’t expect a £5 main course to taste the same as a £20 main course. as long as my food is hot and I think it tastes nice I’m happy.

    even if restaurants are adding less salt they should be adding herbs, spices etc to make their food taste tasty.

    I know every restaurant, land or sea, has to cater for allergies, gluten free, dairy free, people’s own food choices etc but no one seems to cater for diabetics. The most you get is no added sugar’ but they still contain sugar. Hubby has to content himself with either cheese and biscuits (which can increase cholesterol levels) or nothing.

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  • Issyalex, Glasgow
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    Originally posted by Fred Bloggs, Tyne and Wear View Post

    I didn't rate Sindhu at all. The lobster I ordered had no flavour as it was swamped by a really hot & spicy sauce and it was was supposed to be one of their signature dishes. The ice cream was nothing special at all plus they had run out of one of the three flavours supposedly on the dish.

    The best Asian food I've had on a cruise was in Red Ginger on Oceania's Marina. Fabulous & there's no extra charge for speciality restaurants. In fact it's the best food in all the restaurants on any cruise we've tasted, much better than Azamrara. We haven't cruised with either of them since they have gone towards all inclusive, too much stuff included we don't want & too expensive now.

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    I enjoyed Sindhu on Azure. I didn’t find the food over spiced but I had chosen mild dishes.

    I love Red Ginger especially their sea bass. Cannot wait till April when we’re on Sirena. Oceania’s food is excellent.

    BTW If you don’t want the flights, OBC etc ask for a price with and without the ‘free’ perks. I’ve taken off the flights on the last two cruises and booked my own flights for less than the removed fares.

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  • Issyalex, Glasgow
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    Originally posted by jc, liverpool View Post
    Hi TD
    If I have snails on Celebrity I can certainly taste garlic,of course snails don't taste of garlic,,but garlic is in the cooking process.

    Celebrity classic always available dish.
    ESCARGOTS À LA BOURGUIGNONNE
    Shallots, Garlic, Parsley, Pernod Butter

    If anyone likes their food hot try Celebrity French Onion Soup with the cheese crust,,,,you are in danger of 1st degree burns,nice though.

    JC
    JC Hubby loves both escargot and French onion soup on Celebrity. He usually has one of them each night in MDR. I like both but find Celebrity use to much cheese for my liking.

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  • cymrucruiser
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    Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post

    Interesting. Your group was disappointed with the food on the Indy and Mike was disappointed with the food on the Oasis.

    I sailed the same 2 different lines in 2018 and 2019. 2018 was a far better year.

    Annie
    It was our 5th Royal Caribbean cruise and our third time on Indy. We were very shocked at the down turn.

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  • annie, Glasgow
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    Originally posted by cymrucruiser View Post
    Whilst I know I’m a pain in the backside eating out from an allergy and intolerance point of view, I and actually all of my party were very disappointed in the taste, quality and heat of our food on our recent cruise on Indy.
    I discussed it in my review so i won’t repeat myself except to say that the Executive Chef for the whole of the fleet was on board and it made us wonder if she was trying to improve things or responsible for the dumbing down?
    We did the behind the scenes tour and the head chef made it very clear that menu choice and financials were all done by head office.
    Interesting. Your group was disappointed with the food on the Indy and Mike was disappointed with the food on the Oasis.

    I sailed the same 2 different lines in 2018 and 2019. 2018 was a far better year.

    Annie

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  • cymrucruiser
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    Whilst I know I’m a pain in the backside eating out from an allergy and intolerance point of view, I and actually all of my party were very disappointed in the taste, quality and heat of our food on our recent cruise on Indy.
    I discussed it in my review so i won’t repeat myself except to say that the Executive Chef for the whole of the fleet was on board and it made us wonder if she was trying to improve things or responsible for the dumbing down?
    We did the behind the scenes tour and the head chef made it very clear that menu choice and financials were all done by head office.

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  • Smith7
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    Originally posted by Fred Bloggs, Tyne and Wear View Post

    I didn't rate Sindhu at all. The lobster I ordered had no flavour as it was swamped by a really hot & spicy sauce and it was was supposed to be one of their signature dishes. The ice cream was nothing special at all plus they had run out of one of the three flavours supposedly on the dish.

    The best Asian food I've had on a cruise was in Red Ginger on Oceania's Marina. Fabulous & there's no extra charge for speciality restaurants. In fact it's the best food in all the restaurants on any cruise we've tasted, much better than Azamrara. We haven't cruised with either of them since they have gone towards all inclusive, too much stuff included we don't want & too expensive now.

    On the only P&O cruise we've done we stopped eating in the restaurant and started to eat in the buffet on Aurora in the evening, the food was much fresher & tastier especially the fish which was frequently dry and tough in the restaurant and there was so much more choice. Also it was much more peaceful there without waiters racing about the place. It was the same in the restaurant on Celebrity Silhouette far too noisy, fish part cooked, left standing then reheated whereas in the buffet it was cooked to order. There was so much choice of different types of food and we also had a fabulous display of exotic fruit on the evening we left Bali, such a fabulous range of strange looking fruits & the chefs explaining what they were. Interestingly the restaurant didn't serve any. The food in the restaurant on Celebrity Eclipse was very good, not as good a Oceania ships but very good. Incidentally it had a British execuituve chef!

    Haven't been on a cruise for 3 years but trying Marella's Explorer 2 from Newcastle to the fjords. Don't have any great expectations but it's just so much easier travelling from a local port.
    I have to agree. We did a cruise on Oceania Marina in 2016 as it was a deal we couldn't miss. The four of us (we went with forum friends Seacoasters) all thought that the food was excellent in all the restaurants; both the the MDR and the speciality venues.

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  • Fred Bloggs, Tyne and Wear
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    Originally posted by jc, liverpool View Post
    Hi Mrs M
    Sindhu speciality restaurant with menu's by 2* Michelin chef Atul Kochhar on Britannia and the rest of the P&O fleet is highly rated.I'll have you know!!!
    JC
    I didn't rate Sindhu at all. The lobster I ordered had no flavour as it was swamped by a really hot & spicy sauce and it was was supposed to be one of their signature dishes. The ice cream was nothing special at all plus they had run out of one of the three flavours supposedly on the dish.

    The best Asian food I've had on a cruise was in Red Ginger on Oceania's Marina. Fabulous & there's no extra charge for speciality restaurants. In fact it's the best food in all the restaurants on any cruise we've tasted, much better than Azamrara. We haven't cruised with either of them since they have gone towards all inclusive, too much stuff included we don't want & too expensive now.

    On the only P&O cruise we've done we stopped eating in the restaurant and started to eat in the buffet on Aurora in the evening, the food was much fresher & tastier especially the fish which was frequently dry and tough in the restaurant and there was so much more choice. Also it was much more peaceful there without waiters racing about the place. It was the same in the restaurant on Celebrity Silhouette far too noisy, fish part cooked, left standing then reheated whereas in the buffet it was cooked to order. There was so much choice of different types of food and we also had a fabulous display of exotic fruit on the evening we left Bali, such a fabulous range of strange looking fruits & the chefs explaining what they were. Interestingly the restaurant didn't serve any. The food in the restaurant on Celebrity Eclipse was very good, not as good a Oceania ships but very good. Incidentally it had a British execuituve chef!

    Haven't been on a cruise for 3 years but trying Marella's Explorer 2 from Newcastle to the fjords. Don't have any great expectations but it's just so much easier travelling from a local port.

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  • carol, welwyn garden city
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    Originally posted by Delboy, Essex View Post

    Wait for Christmas 😳 as soon as Morrison’s start putting their in house baked Shortcrust mince pies on the shelf’s, we buy them by the dozens, irrespective of the price, even load the freezer with them.
    Still eating them now, best mince pies other than home made, never spoil them with a sauce. 😄. 😎
    I'm with you there, they are delicious .................................................. ..............................Carol

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  • Delboy, Essex
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    Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post
    On the food front we never have mince pies before xmax waiting for them to get reduced at waitrose.

    I can let you know that the "waitrose 1" were the winners so good they did not even need a sause.

    At 12p a 6pack well worth the extra 2p over the runners up 10p.
    Wait for Christmas 😳 as soon as Morrison’s start putting their in house baked Shortcrust mince pies on the shelf’s, we buy them by the dozens, irrespective of the price, even load the freezer with them.
    Still eating them now, best mince pies other than home made, never spoil them with a sauce. 😄. 😎

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  • andyn, Bucks
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    Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post
    On the food front we never have mince pies before xmax waiting for them to get reduced at waitrose.

    I can let you know that the "waitrose 1" were the winners so good they did not even need a sause.

    At 12p a 6pack well worth the extra 2p over the runners up 10p.
    Always worth checking anything with a christmas logo on the packaging. Currently eating a wensleydale and cranberry cheese, have a few in the fridge for a penny and have a few boxes of cinammon porridge 10p

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  • Lawnmowerman, Tain
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    Originally posted by Mason, Altrincham View Post
    I had to laugh about JC’s comment on Onion Soup. Some years ago my hubby and I went to Savannah Georgia with my cousin and his wife. We ate out and the guys had onion soup while Mary and I decided the resultant wind wasn’t worth it so chose something different. Later on that evening while in the hotel’s concierge lounge Walter announced he was going to bed and asked if Mary was coming. She said that she would stay up talking to us. Walter, being Walter said “Why? You didn’t have the onion soup! I will greet you!” The three of us nearly fell off our chairs laughing when he toddled off and i’m Afraid that the consumption of onion soup by either of us brings on a fit of the giggles apart from anything else 😉.

    Take care, Helen
    Ah, Savannah - beautiful town. Can't hear the town's name without thinking of Jingle Bells. Although more recently one of our suppliers who visits named his little girl Savannah.

    Bill

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  • Mason, Altrincham
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    Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post
    On the food front we never have mince pies before xmax waiting for them to get reduced at waitrose.

    I can let you know that the "waitrose 1" were the winners so good they did not even need a sause.

    At 12p a 6pack well worth the extra 2p over the runners up 10p.
    Spendthrift!

    Take care, Helen

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  • Topdeck, London
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    On the food front we never have mince pies before xmax waiting for them to get reduced at waitrose.

    I can let you know that the "waitrose 1" were the winners so good they did not even need a sause.

    At 12p a 6pack well worth the extra 2p over the runners up 10p.

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