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  • Malcolm, Essex
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    Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post
    I think these mega ships need very good weather - they are not designed to cope with thousands of passengers indoors - the Achilles heel??
    Yes, the Oasis class, the Voyager and the Freedom classes were all designed for the Caribbean.

    Sending an Independence to offer winter cruises form the UK was a stage move and the booking obviously did not sustain the itineraries.

    The Radiance class and now the Quantum class are designed for cooler climates.

    Originally posted by Wilba View Post
    With the limited ports these mega ships can visit, I do wonder how long the novelty will last...
    mega-ships have been around at least a decade, depending how you define 'mega'. The novelty is continuing and there appears to be no mass return to smaller vessels.

    In the coming years MSC and Genting/Star have orders for ships which are 200,000 gross tonnes. Harmony is 227,000gt, so these new mega-ships will not be so much smaller. I bet NCL and Carnival will also follow suit!

    Big ships are here to stay!
    Last edited by Malcolm, Essex; 26th May 2016, 11:53 AM.

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  • Haworth, Wokingham
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    Originally posted by Cooke, Ashby View Post
    Horses for course Mr/Ms Haworth. Little ships (600ish) are still be built, but yes, they are very expensive per head and the prices of cruises reflect this. I preferred the yachts at 200 guests and a guest to crew ratio of nearly 1:1, but those days have mostly gone. Our big ships have 400 guests. There are still ships to suit everyone.
    Just to clarify my point I was referring to Royal Caribean as a corporate entity and not other groups such as Carnival who continue to invest in Seabourn although their next ship will be the largest yet at around 600 passengers.

    As to the " mega ships" such as Harmony of the Seas I/we will try them some time as I think it would be a different but still excellent experience.

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  • Malcolm, Essex
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    I've been lucky enough to visit or cruise on many ships, big, small, new and old. Oasis was definitely the most impressive ships that I have ever seen. The scale and range of facilities was of course excellent. Few other cruise lines have anything comparable.

    The design of the 'Oasis' class is breath-taking, the entertainment was excellent and the food and service as good as you will get on a big mass-market ship. It rarely felt overcrowded and embarkation, disembarkation and visiting the ports was a breeze.

    These big ships almost market themselves.

    I'm not saying that it provided the 'best' experience, but it did provide a 'unique' one! I'm really glad that I experienced it - no regrets.

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  • Cooke, Ashby
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    Originally posted by Haworth, Wokingham View Post
    Elsewhere there has been discussion about new builds for Azamara and or new ships, this announcement would seem to indicate the direction that the corporate capital is being directed, the cost per head must be considerably less than for a small 600 passenger ship.
    Horses for course Mr/Ms Haworth. Little ships (600ish) are still be built, but yes, they are very expensive per head and the prices of cruises reflect this. I preferred the yachts at 200 guests and a guest to crew ratio of nearly 1:1, but those days have mostly gone. Our big ships have 400 guests. There are still ships to suit everyone.

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  • Haworth, Wokingham
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    Elsewhere there has been discussion about new builds for Azamara and or new ships, this announcement would seem to indicate the direction that the corporate capital is being directed, the cost per head must be considerably less than for a small 600 passenger ship.

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  • carol, welwyn garden city
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    How disappointing for people going on a maiden voyage, and the ship still being completed around them.

    Ovation looked pretty good, but there was no water in the pools at the front, which was a shame because it was a very pretty area, I don't know why the pools weren't filled............................................ ...................Carol

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  • Wilba
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    Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post
    Is there a genuine market or are the cruise lines trying to create a market??

    I think these mega ships need very good weather - they are not designed to cope with thousands of passengers indoors - the Achilles heel?? Maybe the reason Europe will escape this vessel.

    Another RCI screw-up they launch an incomplete vessel - they never learn do they??

    Annie
    I believe they are just trying to regenerate what Billy Butlin did in the 50's & 60's, a modern version of the Holiday Camp.

    With the limited ports these mega ships can visit, I do wonder how long the novelty will last, in particular cruises from Southampton ..........Wilba

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  • Topdeck, London
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    We got 20% future cruise credit from the Oasis trip
    Friends on Allure got compensation
    Other trips people have got significant compensation

    RCI know what they are doing and hope people won't complain

    Make a list of all areas where they failed to deliver what you bought and send it off to RCI and ABTA. and if booked through a TA get them on the case as well they should be helping stamp out the dodgy practices.

    Cruise lines fail to notify "promptly" when your cruise will be disrupted or lacking features promised.

    They are acting like the days of package holidays when hotels were not finished, this is why we have the ABTA code of conduct and package holiday regulations.

    Cruise lines need a good spanking to get their house in order.
    (Thomson cruise have been hit by abta a few time but not the big boys)

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  • Yogini, Waterlooville
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    Too true! We didn't have the problems on Ovation that they seem to be having on Harmony.

    I had had another email from a friend on board Harmony. She has made numerous complaints and is being given a discount on the cruise. She also cancelled her Navigator sailing in November, and has managed to get a refund of the deposit!

    I think cancelling the cruise on a smaller, older ship was a bit hasty, but that's her choice.

    I've ticked 'maiden voyage' off of my bucket list. I'll watch the prices when the new ships are launched and book if a reasonable deal comes up. I should be retired by then, so won't have issues around booking leave.

    Maybe I should be more vocal about my gripes, then I might get a discount. I just thought that the issues I had on Ovation were too minor/petty to complain about. Not getting my 'welcome back' gift and petits fours until a few days into the cruise was hardly a deal breaker.




    Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post
    The main problem is they still build in France.

    If you want a proper finished ship get it built by MEYER WERFT

    (but size is an issue)

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  • annie, Glasgow
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    Originally posted by Topdeck, London View Post
    The main problem is they still build in France.

    If you want a proper finished ship get it built by MEYER WERFT

    (but size is an issue)
    Point taken and it is the French who are building again.

    Annie

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  • Topdeck, London
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    The main problem is they still build in France.

    If you want a proper finished ship get it built by MEYER WERFT

    (but size is an issue)

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  • annie, Glasgow
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    Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
    It shows that there is definitely a market for these mega ships. Yes Harmony has been well recieved just a shame they didn't finish her before allowing paying guests on board. Some areas no access and 900 workers on board, no wonder they didn't release a last minute block of cabins lol.

    Note re to self don't book on it out of Europe when it's bound to sail from Southampton first!

    Strange mot mot an oasis class in Europe for 2017. Anyone know why?
    Is there a genuine market or are the cruise lines trying to create a market??

    I think these mega ships need very good weather - they are not designed to cope with thousands of passengers indoors - the Achilles heel?? Maybe the reason Europe will escape this vessel.

    Another RCI screw-up they launch an incomplete vessel - they never learn do they??

    Annie

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  • Topdeck, London
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    This is becoming standard practice for RCI get paying people on the ships ASAP and finish the work around them.

    They do it before and after dry docks as well now.

    Expect construction and venues closed if a a ship is new or heading in/out of dry dock.

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  • cymrucruiser
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    It shows that there is definitely a market for these mega ships. Yes Harmony has been well recieved just a shame they didn't finish her before allowing paying guests on board. Some areas no access and 900 workers on board, no wonder they didn't release a last minute block of cabins lol.

    Note re to self don't book on it out of Europe when it's bound to sail from Southampton first!

    Strange though not an oasis class in Europe for 2017. Anyone know why?
    Last edited by cymrucruiser; 26th May 2016, 02:24 PM. Reason: typo

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  • Malcolm, Essex
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    Well spotted Annie!

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