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    #16
    Originally posted by annie, Glasgow View Post
    I think these mega ships need very good weather - they are not designed to cope with thousands of passengers indoors - the Achilles heel??
    Yes, the Oasis class, the Voyager and the Freedom classes were all designed for the Caribbean.

    Sending an Independence to offer winter cruises form the UK was a stage move and the booking obviously did not sustain the itineraries.

    The Radiance class and now the Quantum class are designed for cooler climates.

    Originally posted by Wilba View Post
    With the limited ports these mega ships can visit, I do wonder how long the novelty will last...
    mega-ships have been around at least a decade, depending how you define 'mega'. The novelty is continuing and there appears to be no mass return to smaller vessels.

    In the coming years MSC and Genting/Star have orders for ships which are 200,000 gross tonnes. Harmony is 227,000gt, so these new mega-ships will not be so much smaller. I bet NCL and Carnival will also follow suit!

    Big ships are here to stay!
    Last edited by Malcolm, Essex; 26th May 2016, 11:53 AM.
    See my cruise blog: HERE

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      #17
      When it comes to build costs bigger does not always mean cheaper.

      Examples of those in the last few years

      Oasis and Allure were around $240k per berth(5400)
      Anthem(4200) $227k Quantum(4100) $231k and Harmony(6400) $212k

      Royal P & Britania at 3600pax clocked in at $175k with Regal P at $211k

      OCeania Marina & Riviera 1300pax at $370k

      Seabourn spend around $540k per berth

      top of the list is the new Regent Explorer $609k

      if you go back a generation to 2005-2010 builds
      Independence(2008)(3600) $190k , NCL Gem(2007)(2400) $110k, QE(2010)(2100) $276k

      MSC seems to knock them out around $120k-$145k

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        #18
        I think we are really lucky in the UK at present, as UK ports are being well-served by many Mega-ships, yet we have regional access to CMV, Fred Olsen and Saga's fleets.

        The beauty of CMV and Olsen etc. is that they do not charge premium prices for their charming little ships.

        Unless I'm mistaken, us ports are generally only served by bigger ships these days - with a few 5-6 star exceptions.

        (Let's not forget Thomson's fleet of small ships, mainly offering fly-cruises at present).
        See my cruise blog: HERE

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          #19
          Miami has a few smaller ships doing short runs, RCI Majesty(2400), NCL Sky(2000)

          American cruise Lines runs 4 baby ships 100pax from various US port.

          Windstar service from the Caribbean(no mainland) a bit but mainly all over the world.

          We do have an abundance of older smaller budget ships to pick.

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            #20
            Originally posted by carol, welwyn garden city View Post
            How disappointing for people going on a maiden voyage, and the ship still being completed around them.
            That was another strange thing. Apparently this was a 'preview cruise' which was mentioned at every possible opportunity. I think this was partly to placate the people who had booked early on for the Soton - Barcelona trip and were told it was the 'maiden voyage'.

            Also, the more they said it the more they hoped people would believe it and 'understand' why so much was not completed - wrong! It was never sold as a 'preview cruise' - if it had it should been at near giveaway rates.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Malcolm, Essex View Post
              I've been lucky enough to visit or cruise on many ships, big, small, new and old. Oasis was definitely the most impressive ships that I have ever seen. The scale and range of facilities was of course excellent. Few other cruise lines have anything comparable.

              The design of the 'Oasis' class is breath-taking, the entertainment was excellent and the food and service as good as you will get on a big mass-market ship. It rarely felt overcrowded and embarkation, disembarkation and visiting the ports was a breeze.

              These big ships almost market themselves.

              I'm not saying that it provided the 'best' experience, but it did provide a 'unique' one! I'm really glad that I experienced it - no regrets.
              I love that phrase Malcom, the ship provided a 'unique' but not the 'best' experience?

              Fellow cruisers describe Epic and Harmony as 'Vegas at Sea' - sorry Vegas is better than Epic JMO and you can at least find a seat

              Annie

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                #22
                Just got off the 4 nighter on Harmony. Yes there is still lots of work going on with apparently 227 workers still onboard. (Not sure about the 940 reported in an earlier post).

                Zip line only opened up yesterday, none of the water slides are working and the Aqua Theatre isn't due to open until June. I anticipated it being some sort of shake down cruise didn't anticipate so much not being finished.
                Guest Services was very busy!!! Lots of people with cabin issues, plumbing appears to have been the worst with some with no water and others with Morse code noises after running the tap. Our shower stopped midway through my good lady taking one, luckily she hadn't started to wash her hair. It worked fine for me about 20 minutes later

                We heard reports of someone with an inside cabin with no lights and no AC. Don't know how much truth there was in that.

                One thing that was evident was the lack of crew, probably waiting for the workers to move out so they can come aboard.

                We had to give her a go despite knowing she wasn't for us but we still had a great time.

                Very inward orientated ship RCI produce...... not much connection with the sea......

                Photos from the cruise >>>HERE<<<


                Last edited by Wansbrough, North Somerset; 26th May 2016, 06:03 PM.
                www.wansbroughs-cruise-blog.me.uk

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Wansbrough, North Somerset View Post
                  Very inward orientated ship RCI produce...... not much connection with the sea......
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                  It's almost as if they feel the sea is irrelevant.

                  Only the 'Radiance' (Brilliance etc.) class, with toms of glass and even sea views in some public toilets, has a very good connection with the sea for a relatively big ship.
                  See my cruise blog: HERE

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Malcolm, Essex View Post
                    It's almost as if they feel the sea is irrelevant.

                    Only the 'Radiance' (Brilliance etc.) class, with toms of glass and even sea views in some public toilets, has a very good connection with the sea for a relatively big ship.
                    Possibly explains why they are struggling to fill the cabins on the Epic this summer?

                    I hope all these mega ships home port in either Asia, Australasia or the Americas on a permanent basis.

                    Just not the right ship type for Europe - JMO.

                    Annie

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Wansbrough, North Somerset View Post
                      Just got off the 4 nighter on Harmony. Yes there is still lots of work going on with apparently 227 workers still onboard. (Not sure about the 940 reported in an earlier post).

                      Zip line only opened up yesterday, none of the water slides are working and the Aqua Theatre isn't due to open until June. I anticipated it being some sort of shake down cruise didn't anticipate so much not being finished.
                      Guest Services was very busy!!! Lots of people with cabin issues, plumbing appears to have been the worst with some with no water and others with Morse code noises after running the tap. Our shower stopped midway through my good lady taking one, luckily she hadn't started to wash her hair. It worked fine for me about 20 minutes later

                      We heard reports of someone with an inside cabin with no lights and no AC. Don't know how much truth there was in that.

                      One thing that was evident was the lack of crew, probably waiting for the workers to move out so they can come aboard.

                      We had to give her a go despite knowing she wasn't for us but we still had a great time.

                      Very inward orientated ship RCI produce...... not much connection with the sea......

                      Photos from the cruise >>>HERE<<<


                      Really enjoyed your blog.

                      Thanks

                      Annie

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Wansbrough, North Somerset View Post
                        Just got off the 4 nighter on Harmony. Yes there is still lots of work going on with apparently 227 workers still onboard. (Not sure about the 940 reported in an earlier post).

                        Zip line only opened up yesterday, none of the water slides are working and the Aqua Theatre isn't due to open until June. I anticipated it being some sort of shake down cruise didn't anticipate so much not being finished.
                        Guest Services was very busy!!! Lots of people with cabin issues, plumbing appears to have been the worst with some with no water and others with Morse code noises after running the tap. Our shower stopped midway through my good lady taking one, luckily she hadn't started to wash her hair. It worked fine for me about 20 minutes later

                        We heard reports of someone with an inside cabin with no lights and no AC. Don't know how much truth there was in that.

                        One thing that was evident was the lack of crew, probably waiting for the workers to move out so they can come aboard.

                        We had to give her a go despite knowing she wasn't for us but we still had a great time.

                        Very inward orientated ship RCI produce...... not much connection with the sea......

                        Photos from the cruise >>>HERE<<<


                        ive followed your blog whilst you where away and seen all of your photos. Thank you.

                        At one point you mentioned there was only one place open to get food at 130pm. Was sorrentos and cafe promenade not open?
                        Did you have voom and if so what was it like?
                        Would someone (me lol) with a gluten allergy be able to eat in the likes of wonderland?
                        Theres been a lot of talk on CC about the solarium being disappointing. What did you think?
                        At the top of abyss is it obvious you are stepping/sliding off the back of the ship or is it enclosed?
                        What was the dining like where you move dining rooms with the same wait staff?
                        Did you give the puzzle room a go or see what it was like?
                        Oh and finally I've just remembered what I was going to ask you in the first place lol where were the cocoa cola freestyle machines located?

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                          #27
                          Great photo's Wansbrough...........Wilba
                          Wilba

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                            ive followed your blog whilst you where away and seen all of your photos. Thank you.
                            You are welcome, its surprising to find out who has actually been reading it. Annie included!!!
                            Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                            At one point you mentioned there was only one place open to get food at 1:30pm. Was Sorrentos and cafe promenade not open?
                            We arrived back onboard ship at 1:30pm and although the Windjammer was open we didn't want to use it. As we wanted something more substantial than snacks we didn't consider the two venues you mentioned. We could have gone to the Solarium Bistro but on the occasions we walked through it was very warm in there (without looking too closely the food seemed to be the same as the Windjammer) so if you wanted complimentary dinning your options were limited. I can't recall the MDR on other cruises being shut as early as 1:30 and was surprised to find this was the case.
                            Getting a hot drink and a seat was a real problem when the ship was busy. We discovered late on that Dazzles always had seats available and ended up taking our drinks there which we got from either from the Park Cafe or the Cafe Promenade. Sorrentos only had paper cups.

                            Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                            Did you have voom and if so what was it like?
                            I had Voom and was able to load most of my photos (full size) each day to my Flickr Album. Very impressive.

                            Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                            Would someone (me lol) with a gluten allergy be able to eat in the likes of wonderland?
                            I can't answer that, we looked around Wonderland it was a nice looking venue but we were deterred by the cover charge. Below is a copy of the menu if that is any use.




                            Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                            Theres been a lot of talk on CC about the solarium being disappointing. What did you think?
                            By Solarium do you mean the front partially covered section which we found really draughty. Its a nice big open space and will be popular in warmer climates.

                            Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                            At the top of abyss is it obvious you are stepping/sliding off the back of the ship or is it enclosed?
                            If I am honest, I was concentrating more on getting into the tube. I will tell you its a quick drop and very thrilling. I do remember looking down quickly but I wasn't on the platform long enough to take it all in.

                            Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                            What was the dining like where you move dining rooms with the same wait staff?
                            Our friends were on traditional dining in American Icon but we managed to get them in with us in Silk (Any Time), its the same menu in all three restaurants and on the two nights we dined there we had different waiters.

                            Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                            Did you give the puzzle room a go or see what it was like?
                            We didn't get round to investigating this but spoke to others who said it was good fun.

                            Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                            Oh and finally I've just remembered what I was going to ask you in the first place lol where were the cocoa cola freestyle machines located?
                            I can't say as I noticed any but then I wasn't really looking for them.

                            Its a lot to take in with just 4 days and I sure we still missed quite a bit. I believe we covered most parts and mainly concentrated on the areas which would interest us. Let me know if there is anything else I might be able to help with.
                            www.wansbroughs-cruise-blog.me.uk

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Hawkinsmg View Post
                              Oh and finally I've just remembered what I was going to ask you in the first place lol where were the cocoa cola freestyle machines located?
                              Wansbrough has covered your other points but I noticed the cola machines in Sorrentos.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Wansbrough, North Somerset View Post
                                You are welcome, its surprising to find out who has actually been reading it. Annie included!!!
                                We arrived back onboard ship at 1:30pm and although the Windjammer was open we didn't want to use it. As we wanted something more substantial than snacks we didn't consider the two venues you mentioned. We could have gone to the Solarium Bistro but on the occasions we walked through it was very warm in there (without looking too closely the food seemed to be the same as the Windjammer) so if you wanted complimentary dinning your options were limited. I can't recall the MDR on other cruises being shut as early as 1:30 and was surprised to find this was the case.
                                Getting a hot drink and a seat was a real problem when the ship was busy. We discovered late on that Dazzles always had seats available and ended up taking our drinks there which we got from either from the Park Cafe or the Cafe Promenade. Sorrentos only had paper cups.


                                I had Voom and was able to load most of my photos (full size) each day to my Flickr Album. Very impressive.

                                I can't answer that, we looked around Wonderland it was a nice looking venue but we were deterred by the cover charge. Below is a copy of the menu if that is any use.




                                By Solarium do you mean the front partially covered section which we found really draughty. Its a nice big open space and will be popular in warmer climates.

                                If I am honest, I was concentrating more on getting into the tube. I will tell you its a quick drop and very thrilling. I do remember looking down quickly but I wasn't on the platform long enough to take it all in.

                                Our friends were on traditional dining in American Icon but we managed to get them in with us in Silk (Any Time), its the same menu in all three restaurants and on the two nights we dined there we had different waiters.

                                We didn't get round to investigating this but spoke to others who said it was good fun.

                                I can't say as I noticed any but then I wasn't really looking for them.

                                Its a lot to take in with just 4 days and I sure we still missed quite a bit. I believe we covered most parts and mainly concentrated on the areas which would interest us. Let me know if there is anything else I might be able to help with.

                                Thank you you for all of your answers (and to Harry too)
                                wonderland looks all gimmicky and no substance in my opinion.

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