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Opinion: Agree
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by Hodkinson, Carnforth (22 Jun 09 16:17)
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I travelled on Independence in May on the 5 day cruise to Ireland and on my full review I did on my return I mentioned about the dress/clothing people were wearing, I appreciate that people like to be comfortable whilst on holiday but some guests were down right scruffy if they want very informal then they should consider a different holiday....a few really stood out as 'chavs'! I am not snobby or anything but to me the whole cruise experience is the enjoyment of going out for dinner each evening and wearing something nice!. It does not have to be designer or glitzy but something better than an outsize t-shirt and jeans!
I too was shocked by the manners of others guests....perhaps the world is changing and people are now taking on an 'every man for them selves' approach. I don't mind letting an elderly person /wheelchair bound passenger in front of me but I too was mowed down twice during a cruise!
I shall travel again with RCCL and hope that people will have packed their suitcases better and found some manners.
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by Tiesdell, Chessington (20 Jun 09 18:32)
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When I first cruised in 1987 in Florida, I was amazed to see the huge luggage being brought onto the ship. Were these people going to stay on the ship for the winter months? It was only on formal night when it was all explained. The ball gowns were being transported - it was like being in a Disney film and the jewellery was like being in Tiffany's. It was the most beautiful sight to behold, and the men in their white tuxedos. Nowadays the only people who cause such a stir are the Scots in their regalia of kilts and plaids. Tho the ladies still look as elegant. The photos are superb to take home - showing you all dressed to the nines.
But as for the manners that people profess to have, as a senior myself, I tire of asking other seniors if the words - please, thank you and excuse me - have been omitted from their vocabulary, and I despair of some of the youngsters with their 'language' used. Anyone with a good command of the English language does not need to swear, there are hundreds of other words that can be used.
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by Littler, Falkirk (21 Jun 09 07:46)
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a COMMENT by Tiesdell (20 Jun 09 18:32)
I agree, Tiesdell. Me and my husband started cruising in the early 90s and I immediately fell in love with cruise holidays and the dressing up for formal evenings. Through the years our kids have grown up dressing formally on formal nights and now they are teens, they still do so. However, I think that with the growing popularity of cruises and the increasing number of informal cruise holidays, many people are unaware of how special the formal evenings used to be. I loved looking at the other evening dresses and the smart suits, and formal evenings were a good excuse to push the boat out and dress up! I never ever get a chance to do this otherwise.
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Opinion: Disagree
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by brown, kilmarnock (20 Jun 09 13:04)
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it is entirely up to the individuals how they dress !! nowadays people like to be casual (after all they are on holiday ) however people can dress for dinner but it does not have to be all frills and bows (and fancy shoes that are not comfortable ) so each to their own choice
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Opinion: Disagree
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by Styles, Essex (19 Jun 09 09:18)
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I do not understand why casual dress annoys some people. Bad manners, I can agreewith, but quite often the older generation are amongst the biggest culprits.
Cruise operators are gradually trying to attract a younger customer and, like it or not, they dress in a more casual and relaxed manner.
The plus side is that most people are much more stylish nowadays, although some still find it incredibly difficult, as it is a lot harder to dress casually, where you need to think about what you wear, as opposed to wearing a suit or tux which doesn't really show much sense of style, or colour co-ordination.
Have you been to the City on 'dress down' Friday? Take a look at the older guys, who normally look 'OK' in a suit, most of them haven't got a clue how to dress in a more relaxed manner.
I think this is the real issue here The older cruiser, by nature, does not like change. Especially when they fear that one day, they may be the one who looks like a fish out of water, when they sit down to dinner wearing a tux/ suit.
As Bob Dylan wrote 'The times they are a changin'.
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by Hudson, Hitchin (20 Jun 09 00:55)
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a COMMENT by Styles (19 Jun 09 09:18)
I'm 18 and I always dress up for formal nights! Just because times are changing, it doesn't mean the rules of the ship should be broken. If you don't want to do as the ship says, then don't go on it...Simples. Please don't put the "younger customer" in the same boat! And finally there are plenty of stylish formal outfits out there, maybe you haven't found them yet.
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by Terry, Plymouth (19 Jun 09 23:11)
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a COMMENT by Styles (19 Jun 09 09:18)
If there is one thing that annoys memore than anything is people who can't be bothered to change out of a pair of jeans for an evening meal, whether it is on a ship or a restaurant, but having said that, we always take our evening wear with us and if we have been on a tour and are feeling tired and don't feel like 'dressing up' we shower, change into something reasonably smart and eat in the Windjammer (we always cruise with Royal Caribbean). The nice thing about cruising is the choice to do what you feel like. On our last cruise on the Independence, Transatlantic, in April, we were on a tabe for 8, stuck up a corner by the entrance to the kitchens, with only us and another couple who turned up each evening. (We thought we had been relegated to the naughty boy's corner.) Perhaps when booking people are asked if they want to use the main dining room in the evening, rather than what sitting they would prefer, this problem would not occur. We were very lucky and had a very nice couple to share with. but there were a lot of empty chairs around the dining room for second sitting , however, everyone dressed appropriately. JT.
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by Wilba, N (19 Jun 09 18:18)
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a COMMENT by Styles (19 Jun 09 09:18)
Mr Styles I completely agree with your comments about the more casual approach to the dress code in cruising. At the lower end of the market there are lines such as Ocean Village & the more upscale such as Azamara & above who promote the country casual approach. I like you, am all in favour of the option that these lines promote, but in the case of RCI, Celebrity & others, the dress code of the evening is clearly stated on the top right hand side of the daily cruise sheet & anyone who doesn’t comply with that is typical of the modern attitude of ‘stuff everybody, I’ll do as I please’. Your host, i.e. the cruise company, made a request but you choose to ignore it & in my book that height of ignorance even though your two hundred quid jeans don’t hold a candle to the guy in the £35 dinner suit from Asda. Yes the times they are a changin’, sadly for the worse……..Wilba
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by Smith, West Midlands (22 Jun 09 09:17)
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a COMMENT by Wilba (19 Jun 09 18:18)
I do agree it is very nice that people do dress for the odd few formal nights surely this is part of a lovely holiday after all the price you pay for the cruises dont you want something special I certanly do.In the week is it asking to much for people to be dressed nice to dine I for one dont like to see jeans football shirts etc and I might add I am not a fudy duddy but feel that if this is what customers want to do on holiday go to the self service areas there is enough on board but dont lower the tone in the lovely dining rooms.
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by Hudson, Hitchin (20 Jun 09 01:03)
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a COMMENT by Wilba (19 Jun 09 18:18)
By "the modern attitude" I presume you mean young people? If you don't then I take back this comment. As I said to Styles, please do not assume all young people think "stuff everybody, I'll do as I please," because they don't.
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