MAGNIFICA - A GUINEA-PIG

 
Reviewed By: Chris, Romsey on 28th Feb 2010
Cruise Line: MSC Cruises Times cruised before: 6-10
Cruise Ship: MSC Magnifica Sailed: February, 2010
Destination: British Isles Age: 56-65
Cabin: Balcony
This ship certainly has glitz & style. In the public areas, much use of glass, marble, mirrors, brass & other polished metals, mood lighting, many fabrics & finishes in vibrant colours, will help to make her a lively ship but less brash than many of her American counterparts.

The three lowest decks (5, 6 & 7) and three highest (13, 14, 15) are given over to facilities, with cabins on the five decks in-between
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On the lower decks, a big choice of public bars & facilities. The two main bars, Topazio Bar and Tiger Bar, are adjacent & very similar in style - each features live bands, but the sound separation is good. More restful is the 3-level atrium, with sweeping staircase & seating at each level, which overlooks a piano island set in a water-feature - here the music is quieter in volume & style, classical, acoustic guitar, easy-listening, etc A fairly standard casino, with tables in the centre & slots along the sides. A large lounge overlooking the stern, a good-size sports bar, equally well-sized funky black & silver disco, cigar lounge, cyber café, card room, a couple of small quiet bars. Also a private high-rollers poker room and a small conference/presentation room. The location of the shops is rather disjointed, many set incongruously along the sides of the main bars. We found the décor of our well-planned MDR a little less restful than we would have preferred. There are a couple of premium restaurants – the prices are rather higher than I’m used to & seemed more in line with restaurants ashore. The theatre is very very good, comfortable seating, no blind spots, well-equipped stage. The one show which we watched packed in a lot in just 30 minute – a true “variety show” of high quality, and the highlight of our weekend. No cinema as such, but a very small “4-dimensional experience” at a hefty €10 for a 15 min film. Film is changed daily – they needn’t trouble the operator on my account!!

On the upper decks, an excellent range of pools & Jacuzzis, and one large area with pools, bar & seating has a sliding roof. This leads from the large twin buffets – here is where, more than elsewhere, we felt that style had taken precedence over comfort & utility, the glass-topped tables for instance...
A number of areas for activities & sun-bathing, but a wet February weekend in Southampton wasn’t ideal for judging whether sun-bed space would be at a premium.
Unsurprisingly, both spa and sports centre are well-equipped.
Indoor and outdoor kids facilities, including toddles pool & playground, and a (mainly 25p a time) video arcade.
A jogging track around the opening roof gives the early-morning fitness freaks a pleasant environment & separates them from us lesser mortals.

Like the overwhelming majority of cabins, ours was a standard twin/double with balcony. A respectable size and nicely fitted, though limited storage might make a 14-day cruise just a little fraught. The balcony is spacious enough for two easy chairs & table, but not suited for sun-bathing. Our balcony, and we think the others, was one of a pair which can be combined with the adjoining balcony for those booking adjoining cabins, but there was no door between cabins. No tea/coffee facilities. Perfectly adequate bathroom (shower, no tub). Wide range of films – all on pay per view.
We checked out a family room/mini-suite – the sofa (converts to a double) area is curtained-off & leads to the angled balcony.
We also checked out one of the disability-adapted inside cabins. Very spacious, with twin beds plus an upper berth, bathroom is a large wet-room. Able-bodied pax can book, but will be bumped if required by a disabled.

A picture is worth 1000 words, and fellow-invitee Grant has posted a selection on http://www.cruises.co.uk/429-msc_cruises/4072-msc_magnifica_live-3.html and doubtless there’ll be others on the forums if you navigate from
http://www.cruises.co.uk/429-msc_cruises and skip past all the drivel ?

We were invited guests (many thanks, cruise dot) for this brand-new ship’s showcase pre-view weekend (Fri pm to Sun am) in Southampton, prior to her entering service. This new-ship shake-down, its all-inclusive nature and the passenger mix mean that we didn’t have a typical “cruise experience”.For instance, most passengers were in the travel trade, and included many younger shop staff from a certain high street travel agency, some of whom treated the weekend as a jolly rather than a learning opportunity – old Tom would have turned in his grave ;-)
But even after making allowances for our guinea-pig status, I do have some misgivings.

On our second day, the service in the MDR, buffet & bars had improved dramatically from an understandably shaky Day 1. However, whilst there’s no reason to believe that food preparation & service won’t be up to scratch within a few short weeks, the jury is still out regarding the quality/choice of the food.
Though the choices in the MDR were perfectly adequate, some food like the pate & cheese was bland – and that’s clearly down to the buying rather than the staff. And the lunchtime buffet choice was very poor – burgers, sausages, squid, risotto, sweet&sour pork or boiled ham. With chips or sauté, and no green veg.

At a Q&A session with MSC’s UK managing director, I asked what passenger mix was anticipated on MSC’s ex-UK sailings (Dover, switching to Southampton next summer) & whether the food choice was typical. He replied that it was more typical of their Med sailings, that for UK sailings they anticipated 60% to 70% UK pax, and they were planning to offer more pub fayre such as S & K pudding, and afternoon teas.
I fear that MSC have a lot to learn about UK tastes, and have not done some pretty basic homework. A huge queue for the first breakfast was caused by them being totally unprepared for us all wanting bacon & egg. Eggs were being cooked six at a time – I’ll re-phrase that, eggs were being UNDER-cooked six at a time. Streaky bacon did not impress.
Much of the food was cold – this is a frequent complaint about Italian ships, and indeed eateries in Italy, so I doubt that this had anything to do with the ship being shaken-down.
Tea/coffee served with breakfast, (and afternoon tea on ex-UK sailings) but charged at all other times.
I would be a little unhappy with MSC’s food on other sailings, and the jury is still out re ex-UK sailings.

Smoking. A very different attitude to UK/US cruise lines.
Smoking inside permitted in one main bar, casino, cigar lounge, one covered pool section, discouraged but tolerated in cabins (their preference is cabin bathrooms) but not balconies.
Possibly too liberal for anti-smokers.
So we STILL don’t have a cruise line capable of finding the simple happy medium which would satisfy the vast vast majority in both camps.


There were very few tannoy announcements (5 languages), so we weren’t truly exposed to that bugbear.

The company’s MD stressed that a major difference between MSC and its rivals is that MSC has an owner rather than a managing board. Whilst that clearly has its advantages, I rather think that it’s also responsible for a degree of un-planned chopping & changing.
For instance, one bar was given a name change after the deck-plans were printed but before she left the shipyard.
Likewise the 15% service charge printed on all this ship’s bar menus is now 18% on Magnifica and all MSC ships.
Which neatly brings us to pricing.
MSC offers some of the most competitively-priced cruises on the market.
Both their ticket prices & on-board charges need to be taken into account to decide whether they offer value for money.

Drinks Prices:
(add 18% service to all prices)
Cocktails – mainly €6.70, non-alcoholic €3.90
Wine - glass €3.20 upwards, bottle €16 upwards
Shorts, 4cl - €4.90 upwards
Beer 33cl (that’s a bit widgy) - draught €2.70, bott €3.90 – 4.50, N’castle brown €5.20, Guinness €5.50
Fruit juice - €2.40
Coke etc 33cl - €2.70
Coffees €1.10 & upwards, teas €1.80
Bottled water 20cl €0.50, 50cl €1.20, 1ltr €1.80(a promise from the MD that free jugged water is available on request at dinner)

GRATUITIES – IMPORTANT CHANGES
Their UK MD told us that all MSC’s 15% service charge on drinks (& presumably anything else subject to the 15%) has been increased to 18%.
And that the daily cabin/dining service charges, which could be removed/changed (same as US ships) are now MANDATORY (same as Costa). Rather took us aback – sorry, none of us was bright enough to ask what effect that would have on existing bookings. Or brave enough to suggest the likely consequences – but it has added to my fear that MSC are not in touch with the British psyche.

For a number of reasons I’ve never been drawn to MSC’s cruises, preferring our home-grown varieties. Whilst Magnifica is a superb ship & will be loved by MSC’s aficionados, I don’t think that their UK-based cruises will tempt me either – certainly not in the line’s coming season.

It’s unrealistic to give this experience a star-rating, I’ll attempt to skip the stars. If the programming won’t allow it I’ll give three to all sections.

Sukie – I think Azura would appeal more & Julie agrees. I hear she has a similar up-coming showcase in Southampton. ;-) ………………..
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Comment by HANNAH, Liopetri PO Box 32156 (13 Feb 11 22:18) about this REVIEW
I Have just come back from a 13 DAY /12NIGHT Cruise, 31st Jan to 12th Feb ,was changed due to Egypt Troubles ,finished starting on the 30th Jan ,was told it would be an extra day etc , turned out M.S.C cut short out Cruise by 2 1/2 Days finishing 0n the 10th Feb at 09.30 am , I found the food was dreadful the drinks were very very expensive , The shows were on an average 35 minutes long ,BUT quite good , The five languages spoken at every turn was very off putting and got on my nerves at the end , and there was nothing to do ,no proper cimema even , all in all very boring , and I for one will not be going on any more M.S.C Cruises Maxwell from Cyprus ,( formally THE UK )
Opinion: Disagree Comment by Rebecca, Larbert (03 Mar 10 21:42) about this REVIEW
Hi there, just wanted to make comment on your review - regarding the 'high street travel agency' which was onboard at the weekend, your point about this being a 'jolly and not a learning opportunity' - well this was actually a reward for being A Perfomers within the Company. Old Tom in fact would have been very PROUD of his staff achieving, and would have been glad they were enjoying themselves after a very hardworking year.
Comment by Chris, ROMSEY (04 Mar 10 01:21) about a COMMENT by Rebecca (03 Mar 10 21:42)
Hi Rebecca. Yes, I know about it being a reward, well done to them for earning the trip. I chatted to a number of them & they were nice folk, enjoying a few drinks & learning from their first time on a cruise ship. But some of the others who couldn't hold their drink, well, errr, least said ;-).........regards, Chris
Opinion: Agree Comment by Castle, Bishops Stortford (03 Mar 10 00:36) about this REVIEW
Excellent reviews from you and Shelledpea. We had a good weekend thanks to Sukie and MSC and the good company. The quality of the decor was good, albeit glitzy, and the seating in all the bars and lounge areas was extremely comfortable. The theatre layout and comfort was also extremely good. The seating in the Cyber Cafe was the most uncomfortable that I have experienced on any ship. They were high, swivel bar stools made of very smooth plastic with no backs and they brought my knees almost level with the keyboard! The food was definitely disappointing but had considerably improved by Sunday night. For the ex-UK cruises I hope that they do what the CEO said and provide more vegetables and more interesting flavours. He agreed that we tend to have a more cosmopolitan palate and, apart from traditional British fare, they would introduce Indian and Oriental food to the menu. At present this is only available in the speciality restaurant - at an extra price. As Chris said, smoking policy was a bit of a shock after getting used to the changes that have come in over the last few years. I didn't check where smoking was officially permitted but noticed it especially in the Tiger Bar where it drifted right across all of it. In the bar next to it (Topiazo) people were smoking in the main area and there was even a couple smoking on the dance floor. It also seemed a bit peculiar that they allowed smoking in the covered pool area. Our cabin was nicely fitted out and, once again, the quality was quite good and the towels were lovely and soft. The airconditioning was easy to use and fairly quiet. I agree that the storage space may be a bit cramped for a two week holiday but getting rid of the towelling robes would add 25% more hanging space. We felt that the ship was comfortable and visually quite impressive and if they iron out the niggles it could make a good holiday. It seemed more suited towards younger couples and families but if they get the pricing right they may appeal to a wider clientele.
Comment by agent, southampton (01 Mar 10 19:01) about this REVIEW
Chris, as always a fantastic, nicely written & balanced review. The industry & media would benefit from someone with your understanding and knowledge of what cruise customers are really interested in. I get bored of reading reviews from overpaid, over-jollied travel journalists who provide little insight into the cruise products or experiences. I actually have a bit of a soft spot for MSC. I love the way the ships are presented - the quality of furnishings are second to none and the style is typically Glitzy & Gucci. Food is a regular issue amongst the reviewers and although the breakfast was clearly poorly organised, I did enjoy the evening meal, it was tasty & hot. Better actually than some recent experiences aboard other cruise-lines. I think for UK guests, they could have a great value, high quality cruise experience, nice accommodation etc but there will be one or two things which might test their patience along the way. If you're easy going & don't mind the odd glitch I would recommend MSC & certainly worth a try.
Comment by Chris, ROMSEY (01 Mar 10 21:22) about a COMMENT by agent (01 Mar 10 19:01)
Hi, C/A. ........... yes, a beautifully-presented ship, but I think MSC will always struggle to regularly attract more than a few UK clients to their fly/cruises because of the cultural/culinary differences - those who enjoy are those willing to adapt, or as you say, easy-going. ......... but if MSC expect well over half of their ex-UK pax to be Brits, it's they who will have to adapt. ............ I mentioned the breakfast problems, lunchtime choice & absence of veg, because they weren't due to shaking-down, they were due to MSC failing to allow for something very very basic about UK tastes, and if they don't do their homework a lot better they're gonna learn the hard way. Which would be a shame. Met a lot of nice folk, from their UK MD to officers to bar-staff ......errr, most of the bar-staff actually :-) ...... and I hope they succeed. ....... regards, Chris
Question by Clark, winchester (01 Mar 10 17:59) about this REVIEW
great review thank you, not tried MSC yet, not sure now! some bad points you mentioned is what we like most and hate most ie. smoking, cold food by the way, how did you get to be a guinea pig!! i want to be one!
Answer by Chris, ROMSEY (01 Mar 10 21:45) to a QUESTION by Clark (01 Mar 10 17:59)
Certainly don't rule out MSC because of just a couple of half-baked reviews. But I'd be inclined to put them on the back-burner & see how their UK sailings fare in future reviews from those who've actually cruised MSC - and paid for their cruise. ................. to be a guinea pig, ideal if you live near Southampton & get lucky. You're half-way there!! ....... regards, Chris
Comment by Neil and Ida Down, Southampton (01 Mar 10 16:16) about this REVIEW
Do you mean to say that they charged you for your drinks or were they the prices from the menu?

I liked the difference between your report and Shelledpea's report. Different content but both so interesting. I still think they may have to bend a little towards a British attitude if they want to attract loads of repeat bookings....but not too much, ....Neil

Question by blades, airdrie (08 Jul 11 19:14) about a COMMENT by Neil and Ida Down (01 Mar 10 16:16)
Hi Chris is it you that has a link to the drinks powerpoint for msc? if it is can you please tell me where to find it as i was looking at it yesterday and now i cant find it. regards.

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