Wilba - Answered a Question by Molden (16 Oct 08 07:59)

This is a paste from F.Olsen website......Please note that Boudicca, Black Prince and Braemar will become smoke free from their first sailings in 2009, and Black Watch Balmoral and will follow suit after completion of their 2009 World Cruises (13th April and 29th May). Smoking will be banned in all indoor areas, and permitted only on cabin balconies, and on specially designated areas of deck space.

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Cooke - replied to Wilba (16 Oct 08 09:01)

I find it appaling that I may pay for a cabin with a balcony and not be able to use it because of the smoker next door. Not good enough FO!

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cook - replied to Cooke (16 Oct 08 10:21)

i also find it appaling that i pay for a balcony so i can smoke and i have to put up with people whinging either side of me i am happy to be segregated and treated as a second class citizen in public but not in the privacy of my stateroom.

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donald - replied to cook (16 Oct 08 11:03)

I also find it appalling that there should have to be a need for smokers to pay extra for having to book a balcony cabin because it is banned everywhere else and i .m afraid I,m not happy to be treated like a second class citizen. Good luck with the stopping smoking and sincerely hope it does,nt affect your health adversly and i,m afraid Fred Olson is off my preferred list of available cruise ships.

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Cooke - replied to cook (16 Oct 08 12:26)

I'm not anti-smoking. I applaud the tax that smokers pay to help to keep my taxes down. Alaso the fact that they mostly don't draw State Pensiojns for very long. I have never met a smoker yet who can explain to me why I should have to breathe in their second hand smoke. For your information I am an asthma sufferer and smoke causes extreme discomfort.

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Lane - replied to Cooke (18 Oct 08 16:36)

Okay, I'll explain why you should breathe my second-hand smoke. As members of society it is inevitable that many of our actions will conflict with the interests of others. All life involves conflict, and in a mature, civilized society people try to deal with these clashes of interest with compromise and tolerance. Indeed, many of the world’s problems stem from intolerance and a refusal to compromise. So how about a compromise? If we find ourselves in adjoining cabins I’ll try not to smoke near you and you’ll try not to do anything which irritates me. I don’t suppose we’ll succeed, but I promise my attitude will be to ‘live and let live’….

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Turnbull - Answered a Question by Molden (16 Oct 08 11:58)

As a smoker I guess I am as biased as an anti- smoker but I don't think that smokers should be segregated, just given an indoor area with good ventilation where it doesn't interfere with non and anti-smokers. I also guess that the anti-smokers wouldn't object to sharing a lifeboat with a smoker should the need arise?

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Cooke - replied to Turnbull (16 Oct 08 13:12)

I agree totally that smokers should be catered for and given consideration. However, there would be no point my getting in a lifeboat if smoking was allowed as the smoke would probably kill me as a result of the asthma attack that it would bring on.

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Turnbull - replied to Cooke (17 Oct 08 22:34)

No offence intended just a light hearted comment on a very emotive subject. I do sympathise with your condition and realise it must be very frightening to have an asthma attack. As a nurse of many years standing (who should know better than to smoke) I have seen the distress that asthma can cause and sadly at times the consequences of a severe attack. I think you must be a very liberal minded person to agree to an indoor smoking area being provided for those of us who still indulge. Thanks for your understanding, stay well.

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Neil & Ida Down - Answered a Question by Molden (16 Oct 08 16:43)

Smoking on Fred Olsen ships is, I understand, now being restricted to balconies and certain open deck areas, the rest of the ship being smoke free. Sorry guys and gals much as I appreciate your need the needs of the now 78% of us who are non-smokers are now being attended to. .... Neil.

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