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a - Answered a Question by Burton (31 Oct 08 12:37)

I think you will be surprised at the prices on RCI and the like - I recently met people who were gleefully telling me what they paid for their Thomson cruise and I had paid much less for a balcony on RCI...

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Wilba - Answered a Question by Burton (31 Oct 08 14:54)

Carnival Liberty???? Are you saying this is a gonna! It's one of there latest ships. Can anyone clarify? Regards Wilba.

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a - replied to Wilba (31 Oct 08 15:17)

The Carnival Cruise line has pulled plans for a new route in 2009 due to the current economic climate. The Carnival Liberty will remain based in Miami instead of re-positioning itself in Europe. A number of scheduled 12 and 13-night trips between Dover and North and Western Europe have been cancelled.

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Wilba - replied to a (31 Oct 08 15:36)

Thanks I knew you would have the answer. Regards Wilba.

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Freemantle - Answered a Question by Burton (31 Oct 08 15:26)

I've never had the impression that P&O were more expensive than Ocean Village. I think there will still be a good choice of cruises from both Southampton and Dover and also of course fly cruises.

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Bradley - replied to Freemantle (31 Oct 08 16:26)

One of the plus factors with Ocean Village is that they offer 7 day fly cruises in the Med during the summer. At that time of the year P&O have all their ships sail from Southampton, the majority being for 14 days ish (though not all) and many of them going to the Baltic during the summer. It's a completely different market and if Carnival think OV passengers will migrate to P&O or other lines within the CCL group they could be in for a big shock. The main beneficiary of this move will be Royal Caribbean but it's just not the same. Island cruises could have made a killing if they had stayed as they were.

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Bradbury - Answered a Question by Burton (31 Oct 08 17:08)

Just makes me wonder - if all these ex Ocean Village and Island cruisers migrate to the likes of P&O/RCI etc just another step in the decline of cruising as we know it. Butlins/ Tshirt and Shorts and Baseball caps...God help us!

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Aldrich - replied to Bradbury (31 Oct 08 18:32)

You can play along with 'identify the football team from the shirt' as we do (unfortunately!) on RCI these days.

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Clarke - replied to Bradbury (02 Nov 08 16:05)

I haven't got a baseball cap or a football shirt so obviously don't fit your profile of OV user! Is there a reason we can't wear shorts and t-shorts on our holidays? Having experienced OV, NCL and RCI I have to say OV was the least like I imagine Butlins would be like compared with the other twp (I haven't been but to Butlins but it sounds like many of the cruisers on this site have, so I bow to your experience in making comparisons). RCI Voyager of the Seas was all tacky pool competitions with 'Mercedes the Fun Cruise Director' (talk about in your face!) and terrible 'adult' games involving taking items of other people's clothes off, which thankfully wasn't something I witnessed in person but found evidence of on the cruise DVD. RCI overall was great cruise but I think there is a nonsence snobbery amongst some cruisers who equate wearing formal wear with a high class cruise. I think not. The behaviour of fellow passengers on OV2 was far better than some of that I witnessed on RCI where I saw more than one instance of a passenger being incredibly rude to staff. OV is not worse than other cruise lines - just different. It is relaxed, good value for money (especially for drinks) and the free dining options on OV2 were better and more varied than RCI and NCL.

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Bradbury - replied to Clarke (03 Nov 08 12:44)

I fully appreciate the fact that some people like crusing but dont like the formalaties and the dressing up aspect. Fine if they stick to the likes of Ocean Village. What I am saying is if they have got so hooked on cruising (as most people do) and we get more of this type of cruiser on P&O/Royal Caribbean etc then it spoils it for those of us who do make an effort to respect the dress code. I do not like sitting in a restaurant wearing all my finery with a table next to me full of T shirts/Football tops and the like. Same applies to sitting in a bar in the evening enjoying an evening drink. So there is now a gap in the market....it will inevitably lead to even more of a decline in standards on other cruise ships. By the way I have tried Ocean Village and it wasnt for me!

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