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christopher middleton - Answered a Question by lonsdale (20 Oct 08 22:13)

Radiance class ship.

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lonsdale - replied to christopher middleton (20 Oct 08 22:20)

Thanks, does that mean they are the best ships you can go on? for dining, service etc etc.....

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middleton - replied to lonsdale (20 Oct 08 22:50)

Jewel of the Seas", “Radiance of the Seas”, “Brilliance of the Seas” and “Serenade of the Seas” are all Radiance Class ships. With a sleek design, the newest generation of world cruise ships to enter the Royal Caribbean fleet, Radiance Class ships give you some of the best views at sea. Offering the ultimate “at sea” experience, combining speed, added comforts, greater space, sweeping ocean vistas and an enhanced staff committed to serving your every whim. Among her spectacular features are the 10-storey glass-constructed Centrum, glass elevators facing the sea, and the highest percentage of outside cabins in the Royal Caribbean fleet. A contemporary atmosphere of calm and relaxation prevails on board, from the hand-crafted balustrades and wood panelling on every deck to the exotic themed solariums, with cascading waterfalls and lush vegetation. The sports deck is modelled on a country club and offers a great variety of activities, with golf simulators, a 9-hole miniature golf course, a basketball court, jogging track, even a rock-climbing wall that towers 200 feet above the sea. As always on a Royal Caribbean cruise, you have the choice of dining experiences to suit you, in addition to the spectacular main dining room. From the informality of the Seaview Cafe to the upmarket dining experience of Chops Grille or the Tuscan-inspired Portofino restaurant, not forgetting the 24-hour room service which offers the same variety of choice as the main dining room .

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lonsdale - replied to middleton (21 Oct 08 09:45)

Thankyou for your answer, Sounds fantastic. The reason a ask this question is that i am booked on ventura and i friend of mine had said she had read an article on R SHIPS and said it sounded a better expeience than that offered on ventura, but she couldnt remember what the ship was called or the cruise line!!!! I am liking the sound of what you describe above thats for sure. Although now the reviews are getting better on Ventura i am also looking forward to sailing on her soon. We have never used RCI only P&O Ocean village and Carnival.

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Wilba - Answered a Question by lonsdale (20 Oct 08 23:36)

Are we sure the question is not refering to the ex Rennaisance Ships, R3 & R4 are now with Princess & from memory is Stellios Easy cruise an ex R ship R2?

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Neil & Ida Down - Answered a Question by lonsdale (21 Oct 08 15:18)

Sorry7 guys but Wilba has got it right and not the others. As he says the "R" ships were a fleet of 8 ships run by a company caller Renaissance Cruises and they were small luxury ships all being named R 1, R2 etc. The company went into liquidation in 2001 and the fleet, which I believe was a leased fleet was sold or released to various companies. Oceania Cruises have three of them, Azamara have two, Princess have two or three, one being taken from Swan Helennic. I cannot believe Easycruise would contemplate such luxury and indeed their ships are less than a half the size and still carry the same amount of passengers. Radiance Class ships although beautiful in design have never been known as "R" ships because that was almost a trade mark of Renaissance. .... Neil.

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Wilba - replied to Neil & Ida Down (21 Oct 08 17:25)

Thanks Neil. I'm with you in terms of the 'R' ship reference & a bit of further useless info, Easy Cruise One is Renaisance 2, checked Berlitz, & I recall being tendered in Cannes the other year, passing close to the 'big orange boat' & the Renaisance lettering is still very visible on the bows, just meerly painted over with the new name. Regards Wilba.

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Neil & Ida Down - replied to Wilba (21 Oct 08 20:07)

You had me going there for a minute, Wilba, but Renaissance 2 was a forerunner to the R fleet but was only 9914 tonnes. All of the ones we are talking about were only known by the letter R and then 1, 2 etc. up to 8 and they came into service later in 1998 so you are correct in that you can still see "Renaissance Two" painted over. Sorry but I'm in a beligerent mood at the moment. I know Christopher has a lot of knowledge about cruising but if he is starting to rename like that then one has to take a stand, I see David Aldrich confirms my thoughts. Regards. ... Neil.

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middleton - Answered a Question by lonsdale (21 Oct 08 15:55)

Yes everything that you have written is correct but in the past tense in the present tense Radiance Class shipsJewel of the Seas", “Radiance of the Seas”, “Brilliance of the Seas” and “Serenade of the Seas” are considered by many as some of the loveliest ships afloat and thought of as R class ships.

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Neil & Ida Down - replied to middleton (21 Oct 08 16:15)

By whom? I know of nobody in the cruise industry with the possible exception of yourself who refer to Jewel, Radiance, Brilliance and Serenade as "R" ships and to do so is totally confusing. You'll be telling me next that Victoria belongs to V Ships. I agree with you that they are great ships but they are not "R" Ships they are Radiance Class ships. They are also not as luxurious as the "R" Ships so please don't mislead people. I am almost certain that the piece that Mr Lonsdale's friend read will be about the ships I am referring to not to RCI's Radiance Class. ... Neil.

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