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greatrex - Answered a Question by Ferguson (13 Aug 08 15:44)

Where did you read this, what ship.and why would someone object to paying the 15% when you are told they will impose this fee before you board. a bit like agreeing to a certain level of service then refusing to pay for it .

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Wilson - Answered a Question by Ferguson (13 Aug 08 17:44)

Yes this would happen on Royal Carribean cruises. It seems to be standard that if you do not pay at the booking stage then it is taken of your credit card at the end. No one minds tipping but it is not right to force people to pay. We did not use the dining room as the buffet restaurents were so good but we still had to leave large tips for the table waiters who waited tyhe table in the dining room we were allocated on arrival.

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Aldrich - replied to Wilson (13 Aug 08 21:43)

Not quite correct - all drinks are subject to 15% gratuity - this is for the bar staff that serve you. You are talking about the grats that you either prepay or you pay on board - these go to 4 people on the ship: your waiter, asst waiter, maitre d' and room steward. It is not true to say that 'i didn't go in the diningroom so I should not pay' as these people also serve you in the buffet area during the lunch time so they in fact work for you all over the ship. And the tips are not 'large' - it is £5 per person per day that is split between these 4 individuals. Would you get out of bed for £1 a day......?

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Wilson - replied to Aldrich (14 Aug 08 10:16)

This is a tip we are talking about on top of the wages which I hope would be paid. And in the buffet area we sat in different areas every day, just wherever a seat was available so we were definaytely not served by the 4 people assigned to us in the dining room that we did not use...

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Neil Down - replied to Wilson (14 Aug 08 20:27)

You are missing the whole point, whether by design or because you really don't see it. The waiters who serve you in the alternative eating areas and breakfast and lunch and dinner, are they not doing a good job. whether it is the same person or someone different each time you are saying you are second class and not desrving of my recognition. I still see this as a way of getting off the ship cheaply and not really about the main issue. All this has come from a badly informed questioner and it has been meandering out of sync ever since. ... Neil.

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Robertson - replied to Aldrich (16 Aug 08 11:20)

Not quite correct. My understanding is that the general tip of £5 or whatever per day is split amongst ALL the hotel staff. That includes cooks, cleaners, glasscatchers etc. That is why if you remove the set tip deduction these people will not get any tips. Your waiters will keep theirs to themselves, they are not pooled as I undestand it.

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Imontoyou - Answered a Question by Ferguson (14 Aug 08 21:56)

This whole tipping business is becoming quite annoying. See cruise news on tipping. I always remove the the tipping at pursers desk, and then tip the people I think deserve it, like the plumber who was called to my cabin on one occasion at 4am to fix a leak. Nobody thinks about the 'downstair's staff' To constantly state that the food and drink staff, yes Neil and Aldrich,forget the posh words Waiter, maitre d and room steward (cleaner) should be tipped is a joke!!

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Robertson - replied to Imontoyou (16 Aug 08 11:23)

Problem is if you remove the tip then you miss out on all the unsung heroes below stairs who do just as good a job.

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