Bradbury - replied to Aldrich (29 Oct 08 12:36)

Why not? Some of us dont bother with 'the other site'! Things like this we need to know about. I'm 100% with Wilba on this one. There is a continual decline in the standard of cruising. I remember the days when every passenger was made to feel special. You expected a high standard of cuisine as the norm.

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dolan - replied to Aldrich (29 Oct 08 13:27)

Excuse my ignorance but.....which other site?

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mcguire - replied to Aldrich (29 Oct 08 17:31)

Hiya no .

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christopher middleton - replied to mcguire (29 Oct 08 20:22)

Try googling cruise message boards ?

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Aldrich - replied to christopher middleton (29 Oct 08 20:57)

'cruise message boards' works just perfectly! Make sure it is all pages and not just ones from the UK. Thanks.

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dolan - replied to Aldrich (30 Oct 08 10:36)

Lol!!! Yes I get it! Thanks.

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Tonnar - replied to dolan (29 Oct 08 14:02)

YES please tell me other site ???????????

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Richard Okill - replied to Bradbury (01 Nov 08 14:45)

Yes, very true but it used to be the same with flying. (My Rohan travel suit is now wellout of place amongst the shell suits and gold medalions). We are in a different age now. We all want a better deal and hope against hope for a good standard. Alas, the old adage remains, 'you get what you pay for'.

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Wilba - Answered a Question by Macro (29 Oct 08 10:21)

Old news or not!...What Next?... Indeed!... What goes around comes around. How long before cruising as we know it goes back to what it was 30 or more years ago, available only to the middle class wage earners? Open the floodgates, cheapen the whole experience, lower the price to the levels of Costa Del Sunshine, don’t bother buying fancy clothes, come as you are. This is where Stelios came in with Easycruise, pay for food if you want to eat, pay for your cabin to be cleaned if you want it clean. This is the rocky road that the major cruise lines will go down in my view, & evidence of this is already there. Pay for the standard of food we used to get, shuttle bus charges, talk of rock wall & ice skating charges on the new Oasis OS, only bottled (chargeable) drinking water available on some lines, mutterings of tender charges by some people. This, I believe is the thin end of the wedge. How far away are we from a major cruise operator offering a ‘real cruise only’ experience, whereby you get onboard for a nominal charge & then pay for everything as per Easycruise, food, all types of drinks, cabin cleaning, entertainment, nightclub, tender boats, deck activities etc. I see this as a real possibility over the next 5 years. I’m sure some of you will say this is garbage & I sincerely hope your right, but think about this. The whole world is seeing the effect of the current financial crisis & there are not only the cruise ships to fill that are on the water at the moment, but another 36 ships are currently in build, all to be completed in the next 3 years. That requires over 80,000 additional passengers every single cruise to fill those ships. Yes some ships will be replacing ‘old stock’ but not the majority, they will still be there. So I’ll finish where I started, I think cruising for the masses will become more & more a Butlins type, pay as you go experience & ‘real cruising’ as we knew it 10 years ago, will revert back to the higher earners only, reserved for the likes of Seaborne, Raddison Regent etc.

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Buckley - replied to Wilba (29 Oct 08 11:42)

100% with your opinion and only time will tell. this is where web sites like this one may stop or even get some charges removed if enough people act ? Sadly as cruising become relatively cheaper the cruise lines will start to look at finding additional income and may try the pay for what you use method? If the recent drop in the exchange rate continues and we are faced with a 25% rise in holiday prices they may will have to do some heavy discounting to break even let alone fill the ships?

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